Where is the biggest pine tree?

[TeeGate]

All,

Many of us have come across some very large pine trees in the pines, but we have not really come up with definitive measurements of them. So on our outing on Saturday we revisited and measured the pine tree in the upper Oswego area that we found two weeks before, and it measured 85 inches in circumference. We measured it about 3 feet off the ground.

So if you come across any and have a way of measuring it, post it's size, and lets see who actually has visited the largest pine tree.

To refresh your memory, here is the one we found. If I visit it again, I will take a photo of it being measured.

http://www.njpinebarrens.com/~teegate/5302004/IMG_3495.jpg

:parry:

Guy

[BarryC]

I can think of 2 locations with one or more giant Pitch Pines. There may be a third location, but I can't remember it right now.
I will get a tape measure and go back to those 2 locations as soon as possible. Great idea, measuring them. Thanks.
Barry

[TeeGate]

Barry,

Don't rush. The next time you are there you can check on it. I just thought it would be interesting to see what we all find.

Guy

[BarryC]

Yeah, but I really want to. :)
When I see those trees I always wish I could measure them. I just wish I could remember where the third location was.
Barry,

Don't rush. The next time you are there you can check on it. I just thought it would be interesting to see what we all find.

Guy

[bruset]

I remember a huge one at Nash's Cabin.

[BEHR655]

I just wish I could remember where the third location was.


Barry,

Do you remember the one at Harrisville? I'll find the picture and post it.

Steve

[BEHR655]

Here is the pine with KenDawg (the pine is the one smiling) standing next to it. I'm thinking this one is larger than the one near the Oswego. This tree is at Harrisville on the pond side.

http://www.njpinebarrens.com/albums/album93/abo.sized.jpg

[BEHR655]

Based on an assumption that Ken and Bob are the same height (and I think they are within an inch of each other) I sized and pasted Bob and his tree (to match Ken's ht.) over Ken and his tree. It appears that the trees are the same diameter. Of course this is not scientific (neither is measuring with a belt) and the Harrisville tree needs to be measured.

http://www.njpinebarrens.com/albums/album93/abp.sized.jpg

[BEHR655]

An interesting note. I did not tilt the tree to line up. It seems the trees have the same slight lean.

[bobpbx]

An interesting note. I did not tilt the tree to line up. It seems the trees have the same slight lean.

One thing I notice on the Harrisville tree, is there a large knot where Ken is leaning his arm? I wonder if that knot is 30" up and should be discarded as part of the measurement.

[BarryC]

That's one of the ones I do remember.
And the one at Harrisville on the pond side, I had forgotten. And I think I found another over the winter also.
Oh well. Gotta go for now.
I remember a huge one at Nash's Cabin.

[JIMBO]

I have at least one in the back yard that size I will measure it in the next couple of days.

[bach2yoga]

Ya'll are measuring from the same standards, right? Otherwise it's apples and oranges....

http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/forestry/education/bigtrees/measuring.htm
http://www.americanforests.org/resources/bigtrees/measure.php

Curious to see how they compare with the national register...
Pinus rigida
New Hampshire 169" circumference
Georgia 142" circumference.

[TeeGate]

Ya'll are measuring from the same standards, right? Otherwise it's apples and oranges....

http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/forestry/education/bigtrees/measuring.htm
http://www.americanforests.org/resources/bigtrees/measure.php.

If we all measure at three feet off the ground, we can get a general idea of the size. If there is a knot go below or above it. This is not a contest, so nobody wins money if they find the biggest one.

Guy

[KenDawg]

[/quote]Here is the pine with KenDawg (the pine is the one smiling) standing next to it. I'm thinking this one is larger than the one near the Oswego. This tree is at Harrisville on the pond side.
Barry,

Do you remember the one at Harrisville? I'll find the picture and post it.

Steve[quote]

Behr, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the Pine tree that is smiling next to me is at Nash's cabin. Very good work on the editing job.

[BEHR655]

Behr, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the Pine tree that is smiling next to me is at Nash's cabin. Very good work on the editing job.

Consider yourself corrected. We came upon the tree while looking at cellar holes at Harrisville on the pond side of the road. I remember about where it is so the next time I'm in the area I will measure it.

Steve

[TeeGate]

We all need to add tape measures to our already bulging packs.

Guy

[BarryC]

If I'm remembering correctly the official height above ground for measuring circumference is 4½ feet. But if we all choose the same height above ground, that's close enough. Anyone know how big the state champion is?
Just to show how huge those things are, the Sequoia named General Sherman is just under 37 feet in diameter at ground level, but I can't remember what it is at 4½ feet above ground. Last I knew it was 272 feet tall, and the Coast Redwoods are much taller. Our trees are mere sticks compared to those.
Ya'll are measuring from the same standards, right? Otherwise it's apples and oranges....

http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/forestry/education/bigtrees/measuring.htm
http://www.americanforests.org/resources/bigtrees/measure.php

Curious to see how they compare with the national register...
Pinus rigida
New Hampshire 169" circumference
Georgia 142" circumference.

[manumuskin]

I remember reading a largest tree list that Bob Eisele had in his house.Me an his boy are good friends.The largest reporte pitch pine in NJ is located on the north side of route 72 east of manahawkin before you reach the marsh.I forget the exact location but it"s supposedly within sight of the road at least in winter.You have to be a member of some big tree club to get this list but it also listed the states biggest hickory as old hickory out to mays landing sand and gravel of 347 which is now dead as of about 15 years ago but i believe still standing.I personally know where a big pine is at the head of union lake in a massive laurel and briar swamp.i had to crawl down deer trails to reach this spot.I built a log cabin there back in 83 and it appears as though no one has ever found it thought it"s rotted thru now.made it outta unpeeled pine.didnt know any better.you cannot get back there in an upright position.this tree looked about as big arouns as the oswego tree and had to be eighty feet tall or better.never actually went to the one in manahawkin
Al

[TeeGate]

I remember reading a largest tree list that Bob Eisele had in his house.Me an his boy are good friends.The largest reporte pitch pine in NJ is located on the north side of route 72 east of manahawkin before you reach the marsh.I forget the exact location but it"s supposedly within sight of the road at least in winter.You have to be a member of some big tree club to get this list but it also listed the states biggest hickory as old hickory out to mays landing sand and gravel of 347 which is now dead as of about 15 years ago but i believe still standing.I personally know where a big pine is at the head of union lake in a massive laurel and briar swamp.i had to crawl down deer trails to reach this spot.I built a log cabin there back in 83 and it appears as though no one has ever found it thought it"s rotted thru now.made it outta unpeeled pine.didnt know any better.you cannot get back there in an upright position.this tree looked about as big arouns as the oswego tree and had to be eighty feet tall or better.never actually went to the one in manahawkin
Al

Al,

If you ever get to either one give it a measure. Thanks for the info.

Guy

[JIMBO]

The largest pitch pine I found was 72” dia. 3’ from the ground
I also measured some other trees as sassafras 38”white oak 91” & red oak at 87”. All the trees are on my property in Nugentown and all the large trees are neat the property lines or corners.

[jokerman]

The biggest pine tree I ever saw is next to the church (old one) in the City of Burlington. The pine cones are huge. I never measured it, but will next timeI pass that way. It's to the left of the church and adjacent to the road.

[TeeGate]

Today, Steve, Jessica, and I were in the Harrisville area, and we measured the pine tree that is mentioned in the previous posts. So at 4 1/2 feet from the ground it measured 99 inches in circumference.



So far officially that is the biggest on this site.

http://www.njpinebarrens.com/~teegate/8072004/IMG_3931.jpg

http://www.njpinebarrens.com/~teegate/8072004/IMG_3933.jpg


Guy

[bobpbx]

So how was the rest of your day out there Guy? I forgot to tell you we did a PBX hike in that area. We started at Martha and followed the river upstream on the western bank..............bob

[TeeGate]

So how was the rest of your day out there Guy? I forgot to tell you we did a PBX hike in that area. We started at Martha and followed the river upstream on the western bank..............bob

We first started looking for boundary markers for a portion of the Bass River State Forest, and came up with two of them about a half mile into the woods.


http://www.njpinebarrens.com/~teegate/8072004/IMG_3925.jpg

http://www.njpinebarrens.com/~teegate/8072004/IMG_3928.jpg

We then tried to drive Steve's vehicle through a long stretch of water and we started sinking. We were just a few inches from getting our feet wet. Steve waded into the water and I drove backwards out as he pushed. We may have been able to get out without him pushing, but we did not want to dig ourself deeper trying to get out.

We had lunch right at the Furnace at Martha, and then drove north past the cedar cut above Nash's cabin, almost to Oswego lake, before heading back to measure the tree at Harrisville where we ran into CHIGGERS. From there I headed home because I was heading to Media PA in the late afternoon.

A nice day to be in the pine.

Guy

[BarryC]

You divide that figure by Pi to get the diameter, which comes out to be 31.5".
I have seen White Pines and Loblolly Pines bigger than that, but they also grow much faster. Pitch Pines are slow growers and large ones are extremely rare.
By the way, is that the original big Pitch Pine we saw at Harrisville? Kendawg and I looked for it, but couldn't find it. Instead we found one with lots of other tree branches around it. We were sure that was not the one we first found. But we could be completely wrong.
Barry
Today, Steve, Jessica, and I were in the Harrisville area, and we measured the pine tree that is mentioned in the previous posts. So at 4 1/2 feet from the ground it measured 99 inches in circumference.



So far officially that is the biggest on this site.

http://www.njpinebarrens.com/~teegate/8072004/IMG_3931.jpg

http://www.njpinebarrens.com/~teegate/8072004/IMG_3933.jpg


Guy

[BEHR655]

Yes Barry, that is the one you, Ken and I found near the cellar hole.

Steve

[BarryC]

http://www.state.nj.us/dep/parksandforests/forest/community/bigtree.html

[Boyd]

Probably not the biggest, but there is an impressive old tree on the left side of Atsion Rd as you head north, just after you emerge from the Wharton Forest. There's a hunting club on the right side of the road: http://www.njpinebarrens.com/forums/modules.php?full=1&set_albumName=album152&id=DSCN2 157&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=vie w_photo.php

[BarryC]

Yes. That's a White Pine. Very nice.
We've been trying to find the largest Pitch Pine in the Pine Barrens.
Probably not the biggest, but there is an impressive old tree on the left side of Atsion Rd as you head north, just after you emerge from the Wharton Forest. There's a hunting club on the right side of the road: http://www.njpinebarrens.com/forums/modules.php?full=1&set_albumName=album152&id=DSCN2 157&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=vie w_photo.php

[Boyd]

Old thread... but I found something interesting recently. This isn't a living tree, but a bunch of HUGE logs from a big pine tree which was cut somewhere around Batsto. There are about 8 big logs on either side of a little sand road which runs parallel to Washington Road here:

http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=39.65585&lon=-74.6327666666667&datum=nad83&u=7

It's hard to tell if these are from more than one tree. I didn't have a camera with me, but the logs range in size from 43" to 48" diameter. I measured the circumference of two of the largest ones. One was 148" and the other was 153". Some of the logs are hollow and big enough to crawl through!

Has anyone else seen these? Any idea where they come from? My guess would be an old tree that was preserved somewhere in the Batsto village area.

[GermanG]

As far as I know, the state record pitch pine is on Forsyth Refuge land, just off the end of Oxycoccus Rd. in Manahawkin (the old Bishop bogs). Some claim this one shouldn't count, as it divides into several trunks just about the measurment height. That would bump up the one Manumuskin mentioned to first place. His is on Stafford Ave., the road that ends at the "bridge to nowhere".

[BEHR655]

That would bump up the one Manumuskin mentioned to first place. His is on Stafford Ave., the road that ends at the "bridge to nowhere".
I've been down that road several times and haven't noticed it.

Steve

[GermanG]

The tree is set back from the road about 100 feet, give or take. It isn't easy to spot from the road unless you know where to look, and also doesn't look as big as it is from the road. Since both these trees are not far apart, perhaps a short get-together is in order. We can take new measurement and can see how the two trees compare.

As an aside, I'm of the opinion that few of the listed trees are really the biggest in the state, but just the ones found by the few guys doing the looking. For years, one of my old professors at Rutgers was listed as the reporter of quite a few of the state record trees. He lived in Princeton, and guess what town most of those trees where in, or near? I'm sure many record trees are out there, just waiting to be found.

[bobpbx]

You know German, I think I've seen that tree. It has three huge branches about 4 feet off the ground, which causes the point directly below the branches to swell out. Right?

Whoops, just noticed your previous post where you confirmed it for me. I'd say this tree just don't cut it. Knock on wood!