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bruset
10-28-04, 09:53 PM
Anybody up for visiting some of the "mountains" at Lahaway this weekend?
bobpbx
10-28-04, 11:46 PM
I'd love to. Sunday is better for me, but I can do Saturday till 2 pm.

Let me know as soon as you can.........bob
bruset
10-29-04, 12:16 AM
Sunday is actually a better day for me too.

Lets say Sunday, meeting around 10am across from the Antiques Store at the intersection of Stump Tavern Road and 528.

Anybody who has a better time/day suggestion please speak up.
bobpbx
10-29-04, 08:22 AM
You mean the antiques store that is closed, right?
BEHR655
10-29-04, 08:23 AM
I may be able to make it.

Steve
bruset
10-29-04, 08:51 AM
The store has been open the last two times I was at Lahaway.

Steve, it would be great if you could make it. I haven't seen you in ages.
bobpbx
10-29-04, 06:07 PM
I'll be there. Are you going to crosscheck your maps with some of the feature names like Mink Island? It may be on GA property but you never know.

bob
BEHR655
10-29-04, 06:38 PM
Ok, first let me say Ben that you are the ultimate post whore! 123,494!!!! :mrgreen:

Second, I have a delema. Sunday is Halloween and I am the only one who can be home to give candy out to all the little brats. I have not yet decided if I should be a Scrooge and blow off the little darlings for this trip or stay home and give out toothe decaying candy.

Maybe if I get home by 3-4:00 it would be ok.

Ben, can you give me coords for the meet spot so I can plan my route while I'm mulling this over.

Steve
bobpbx
10-29-04, 07:10 PM
I have not yet decided if I should be a Scrooge and blow off the little darlings for this trip or stay home and give out toothe decaying candy.
Steve

Put a bucket of coal chunks on your porch. Leave a note telling them to take one (JUST ONE!) and save it till winter. With heating oil prices skyrocketing, they'll need it. :jd:
bruset
10-29-04, 07:15 PM
Steve,

40° 5.84'N, 74° 25.09'W

You can actually get the spot on Topozone. Do a search for Midwood, NJ and that's the place.

Also be a scrooge. The Pines are better.

Also, I have not been able to cross reference the names in the articles with any of the topo maps. I believe that Mink "island" is actually this rather large hill (http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=18&n=4441430&e=546040&s=50&size=l&u=7&datum=nad83&layer=DRG25). Unfortunately that's right next to the campground and some private houses so I am not too sure I want to be exploring around there - at least by myself.

Everything on the other side of the road is GA property. I don't know how patrolled it is. I wouldn't mind checking out the bogs on the other side of the road (http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=18&n=4441603&e=546385&s=50&size=l&u=7&datum=nad83&layer=DRG25), but I would suggest that we hide our vehicles somewhere and hike in.
BEHR655
10-29-04, 07:22 PM
Put a bucket of coal chunks on your porch. Leave a note telling them to take one (JUST ONE!) and save it till winter. With heating oil prices skyrocketing, they'll need it. :jd:

Or tell them to save it for their stocking on Christmas. :mrgreen:
BEHR655
10-29-04, 07:25 PM
The plus side of doing this trip is that I'd have plenty of candy. And I only bought the stuff I like!
bruset
10-29-04, 07:33 PM
The plus side of doing this trip is that I'd have plenty of candy. And I only bought the stuff I like!

Same here!
TeeGate
10-29-04, 09:22 PM
Ben,

It looks like Jessica and I can make it Sunday also. Our Saturday plans are changed. I am in.

I regret going to the post office today. Oh well. You will get it Monday.

Guy
TeeGate
10-29-04, 10:40 PM
Are you all up to a small side adventure that is right near where we are going?

Located in Prospertown 400 feet from the intersection is Mile Marker 39.63 of the Lawrence Line. It is the western boundary of Great Adventure. The marker is there! It is a semi newer one, but a Lawrence Line marker all the same. By newer I mean it is cement. I have detailed instruction and even a survey map of the area you may be interested in. Also, I have a photo of the marker, a Cowards/Prospertown Late 1700's map, a 1814 Prospertown map, and a survey report from 1817 with a map showing "chain lengths". They used actual chains to measure distance back then.


I will email a copy tomorrow to all that are definitely going if anyone is interested. The maps are copies and not perfect, but you may find something of interest in them. I will pass along the GPS coordinates of the marker, but I believe them to be inaccurate. They were taken by an old "Scout" model. But I have calculated the actual coordinates, and found the location on the map where it is. Plus the survey map shows it's location exactly.

Guy
BEHR655
10-29-04, 11:11 PM
Sounds good to me.
bruset
10-30-04, 01:16 AM
Lets find that marker!!!
TeeGate
10-30-04, 03:58 PM
The three of you should have received my email with the info. It should only take a few minutes to do this, so it won't take up any time. If you don't want to search, we can forget about it.


Guy
bobpbx
10-30-04, 04:34 PM
The three of you should have received my email with the info. It should only take a few minutes to do this, so it won't take up any time. If you don't want to search, we can forget about it. Guy

Sure, and if we have time and its relatively close I'd like to see Paint Island Spring.
TeeGate
10-30-04, 04:38 PM
So we are meeting here?

http://topozone.com/map.asp?lat=40.09722&lon=-74.41861


Guy
bruset
10-30-04, 04:53 PM
So we are meeting here?

http://topozone.com/map.asp?lat=40.09722&lon=-74.41861


Guy

Yes. And we can visit the spring. It's probably only 10 minutes away.
TeeGate
10-30-04, 05:50 PM
And if we really have time, just a very short distance from our meeting point is a old geodetic marker with reference markers on the top of a hill.

http://topozone.com/map.asp?z=18&n=4438604&e=547716&s=50&size=l&datum=nad83&layer=DRG25

HISTORY - Date Condition Report By
HISTORY - 1935 MONUMENTED CGS
HISTORY - 1957 MARK NOT FOUND LOCENG
HISTORY - 19900615 GOOD NJGS
HISTORY - 19950809 MARK NOT FOUND USPSQD

STATION DESCRIPTION

'DESCRIBED BY COAST AND GEODETIC SURVEY 1935 (JB)
'THE STATION IS LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY OF MRS. HANNIE WILBER,
'APPROXIMATELY 2.9 MILES WEST-SOUTHWEST OF CASSVILLE, ON A HIGH
'SMALL HILL KNOWN AS SUGAR LOAF HILL, 5 PACES EAST BY NORTH OF
'AN 8-INCH PINE, 8 PACES EAST OF A 8-INCH PINE WITH TRIANGULAR
'BLAZE, AND 5 PACES WEST OF A 6-INCH PINE. MARK PROJECTS 5 INCHES.
'
'REFERENCE MARK NO. 2 IS 56.40 FEET (17.190 METERS) NORTHWEST
'OF STATION. MARK PROJECTS 6 INCHES.
'
'REFERENCE MARK NO. 1 IS 49.21 FEET (15.000 METERS) SOUTH OF
'STATION, 2 PACES EAST OF 4-INCH PINE, AND 4 PACES WEST-SOUTHWEST
'OF A 6-INCH PINE. MARK PROJECTS 6 INCHES.
'
'AZIMUTH MARK IS 0.5 MILE EAST-NORTHEAST OF STATION, 5 PACES
'NORTH OF CENTERLINE OF HARD SURFACE ROAD, 3 PACES EAST OF
'CULVERT. MARK IS A STANDARD MARK SET FLUSH IN CULVERT RETAINING
'WALL. TO REACH AZIMUTH MARK GO DOWNHILL TO HARD SURFACED ROAD,
'TURN LEFT AND GO 0.7 MILE TO CULVERT AND MARK.
'
'TO REACH STATION FROM HOTEL AND BLINKER IN CASSVILLE, GO WEST
'TOWARD NEW EGYPT FOR 3.3 MILES TO DIM SAND ROAD RIGHT IN FRONT
'OF 2-STORY HOUSE, HERE TURN RIGHT AND GO 0.3 MILE TO Y. TAKE
'RIGHT FORK AND GO .45 MILE TO AN 8-INCH PINE WITH TRIANGULAR
'BLAZE, AND WAGON TRAIL TO RIGHT. (POSSIBILITIES ARE THAT TRUCK
'MAY NOT BE DRIVEN FARTHER THAN THIS POINT). HERE TURN RIGHT
'AND GO APPROXIMATELY 120 YARDS TO TOP OF HILL. STATION IS ON
'TOP OF HIGHEST POINT.
'
'THE DISTANCE BETWEEN MARKS COULD NOT BE MEASURED.
'
'A 90-FOOT TOWER WILL CLEAR ALL LINES.

STATION RECOVERY (1957)

'RECOVERY NOTE BY LOCAL ENGINEER (INDIVIDUAL OR FIRM) 1957 (LFW)
'REPORT OF MR. L.F. WAGNER, OCEAN COUNTY ENGINEER, TOMS RIVER, N.J.,
'DATED 9/16/57.
'
'AZIMUTH MARK DESTROYED DURING CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW CULVERT.
'
'AN AZIMUTH MARK DISK STAMPED SUGAR 1935 WAS RECEIVED 11/4/57.

STATION RECOVERY (1990)

'RECOVERY NOTE BY NEW JERSEY GEODETIC SURVEY 1990 (FAC)
'THE STATION IS LOCATED IN JACKSON TOWNSHIP, ON THE PROPERTY OF STATE
'OF NEW JERSEY, DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, DIVISION OF
'FISH, GAME AND WILDLIFE, BLOCK 8.01 LOT 3.01 AS RECORDED IN THE
'JACKSON TOWNSHIP TAX MAPS. TO REACH THE STATION FROM THE INTERSECTION
'OF NEW EGYPT-CASSVILLE ROAD, COUNTY ROAD 528 AND THE TRENTON-CASSVILLE
'ROAD, COUNTY ROAD 571, GO SOUTHWEST ON NEW EGYPT-CASSVILLE ROAD FOR
'3.3 MI (5.3 KM) TO A DIM ROAD LEADING NORTH. THE DIM ROAD IS
'NORTHEAST OF A 1.5 STORY FRAME HOUSE, NUMBER 312. THE ROAD IS ALSO
'NORTH NORTHWEST OF A 2.5 STORY FRAME HOUSE, NUMBER 210 AND POLE NUMBER
'JC 3025 JK. TURN RIGHT AND GO 0.30 MI (0.48 KM) ON THE ROAD TO A WYE
'FORK, BEAR TO THE RIGHT AT THE WYE AND GO ABOUT 680 M (2231.0 FT) TO A
'BLAZED, FLAGGED PATH LEADING EAST TO THE SUMMIT OF THE HILL. GO EAST
'ON THE PATH FOR ABOUT 150 M (492.1 FT) , UP THE PATH TO THE TOP OF THE
'HILL AND THE STATION SET IN THE APPROXIMATE CENTER OF THE HILL. THE
'STATION, SURROUNDED BY SEVERAL BLAZED PINE TREES, IS ABOUT 15 M (49.2
'FT) NORTHEAST OF REFERENCE MARK NUMBER 1 AND SET FLUSH WITH THE
'GROUND.

STATION RECOVERY (1995)

'RECOVERY NOTE BY US POWER SQUADRON 1995
'MARK NOT FOUND.
TeeGate
10-30-04, 07:02 PM
Sure, and if we have time and its relatively close I'd like to see Paint Island Spring.

Where is that on Topozone so I can put it into my GPS?

Guy
bruset
10-30-04, 07:08 PM
Where is that on Topozone so I can put it into my GPS?

Guy

The coordinates are in the Directions forum.
bruset
10-30-04, 07:10 PM
And if we really have time, just a very short distance from our meeting point is a old geodetic marker with reference markers on the top of a hill.


You and I searched for that last year and couldn't find it.
TeeGate
10-30-04, 07:39 PM
You and I searched for that last year and couldn't find it.


We most likely will have tons of other things to do anyway.

Guy
TeeGate
10-30-04, 07:48 PM
Are we bringing a lunch?

Guy
bruset
10-30-04, 08:00 PM
Are we bringing a lunch?

Guy

We can do one of three things.

1) Bring a lunch
2) Stop at the General Store next to the Cassville Tavern and buy deli lunch.
3) Stop at the Cassville Tavern for some burgers, etc. Supposedly their food is REALLY good.
TeeGate
10-30-04, 08:06 PM
We can do one of three things.

1) Bring a lunch
2) Stop at the General Store next to the Cassville Tavern and buy deli lunch.
3) Stop at the Cassville Tavern for some burgers, etc. Supposedly their food is REALLY good.

I vote for bringing a lunch or the deli. Stopping at a Tavern takes up too much time. And I don't particularly want to go there with Jessica, unless it has a restaurant area. But whatever you agree with, I will be fine with that.


Guy
BEHR655
10-30-04, 10:04 PM
I asgree that eating at the tavern may take too much time.

Steve
TeeGate
10-30-04, 10:10 PM
We have decided here to pack our lunch. If you all want to go to the deli or the Tavern, that is fine by us.

Guy
BEHR655
10-30-04, 10:18 PM
Don't forget to change your clocks.
TeeGate
10-30-04, 10:27 PM
Don't forget to change your clocks.

Nothing wrong with being there early :)


Guy
bobpbx
10-30-04, 11:29 PM
Nothing wrong with being there early :) Guy

Hi, I just got home. I was at a tribute to Howard Boyd at the Mullica River Casino........cool. I really like Howard and his wife Doris. He'll be 90 years old in 3 days.

I will pick up lunch at WAWA on my way there..........bob

Thats still 10 am I presume. No need to answer if correct.

Hey, you lurkers who never come out,......C'mon!
bruset
10-31-04, 01:08 AM
Ok, I will most likely have my lunch as well. 10 AM it is.

I will make sure that I have my clock correct.
BEHR655
10-31-04, 09:24 AM
See you guys soon.
BEHR655
10-31-04, 08:28 PM
I had a great day today. That is until I got home and realized that I had accidently deleted most of the files in my Documents folder yesterday while trying to delete something else. :bang:

You can view some of the pix I took today here:
http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=246

PS. Anyone know if I can recover deleted files without paying $100.00 for software to do it?
TeeGate
10-31-04, 09:21 PM
It was a great day, and it was nice to see Jim show up.

Here is the photo of the rides at Great Adventure from a hill we visited.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/islandtee/10312004/IMG_4480.jpg


Another view of the bog.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/islandtee/10312004/IMG_4485.jpg


The pulley we found that was used to pull something up the hill.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/islandtee/10312004/IMG_4487.jpg


And two photo's of the Aspen tree.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/islandtee/10312004/IMG_4489.jpg

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/islandtee/10312004/IMG_4490.jpg


And thanks for all of your help in finding marker 39.63 of the Lawrence line. Especially you Bob. Since the coordinates are off by quite a bit on the report, I wanted to find this one and set the record straight.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/islandtee/10312004/IMG_4491.jpg

And here is another view of our motley crew.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/islandtee/10312004/IMG_4504.jpg

And Ben I really appreciate the hand out pamphlet you gave us, which I kept in my car for safe keeping. That is why I did not have it when you asked. I did not want to damage or drop it as I ALWAYS do with maps when I hike.

Anyone who did not answer Bob's call, missed out on a fun day.

And Steve I can't help you out on how to do it on a Windows computer, but I can tell you that the more you use your computer, the more chance you have of overwriting those files. Keep your use down to a minimum, or you may never see them again. In fact you loading the photo's in may have already caused that to happen somewhat.


Guy
bobpbx
10-31-04, 10:30 PM
I had a great day today. That is until I got home and realized that I had accidently deleted most of the files in my Documents folder yesterday while trying to delete something else. :bang:

You can view some of the pix I took today here:
http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=246

PS. Anyone know if I can recover deleted files without paying $100.00 for software to do it?

This may be a stupid question, but did you check the trash/recycle bin on your desktop?
BEHR655
10-31-04, 10:35 PM
This may be a stupid question, but did you check the trash/recycle bin on your desktop?

Yes, that is a stupid question. :mrgreen:
But thanks for the suggestion.



:bsod:
bruset
10-31-04, 10:49 PM
Steve,

You need the undelete software on your PC before you delete the files. Otherwise by installing it you run the risk of overwriting the areas of the disk that you would try to recover from.

I have an external USB hard drive that I keep a backup of all of my important stuff. I also have a 256MB SD card in my laptop's SD slot that I keep my *really* important stuff (Quickbooks data) on.

Here's my photos from the trip:

http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=247

I had a great time, and it was nice to see everybody again. I think I am going to start planning more hikes & expeditions soon.

And why didn't anybody tell me that my hair looked like Eddie Munsters? Ugh.
BEHR655
10-31-04, 11:28 PM
Great pictures Ben and thanks for the tour today.

I downloaded and installed an app onto my external drive. I recoverned most of the files but many were already corrupted. Not a total lose though.

Steve
JerseyJim
11-01-04, 12:06 PM
I had a really good time yesterday, I don't have enough time to get out as often as I would like to due to my work schedule, as luck would have it a class I was supposed to take was cancelled so I was able to come out and explore, I'm glad I went, I hope to see everyone again soon
bobpbx
11-01-04, 11:03 PM
I had a really good time yesterday, I don't have enough time to get out as often as I would like to due to my work schedule, as luck would have it a class I was supposed to take was cancelled so I was able to come out and explore, I'm glad I went, I hope to see everyone again soon

It was nice to meet you Jim. I think emergency medical people are heroes who do a job the rest of us are afraid of.

As far as yesterday, it was a 10. I loved the weather, the exploring places, and the company. I'm glad it went off so well.

PS: Steve, are your pants still wet? I laughed so hard I almost peed my pants.
BEHR655
11-01-04, 11:49 PM
Glad you enjoyed it. :mrgreen:
TeeGate
11-02-04, 05:56 PM
Glad you enjoyed it. :mrgreen:


You did seem to get quite a rush over Steve getting wet :) I have never heard you laugh so hard.

BTW Bob, Jessica's arm is really bruised from your exuberance. Her twig extremities are hurting :)

Guy
bobpbx
11-04-04, 10:35 PM
Tell her I'm sorry. I'll keep it light next time.........bob