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whippoorbill
03-17-07, 12:41 PM
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A friend and I made it to Ongs Hat last Tuesday afternoon, completing a winter-hike project on the Batona Trail. I do think it's best to walk this trail in the direction from Lake Absegami north -- the sun is over the hiker's shoulder most of the way, the lighting more effective for seeing. We had walked the trail in its entirety twenty years ago and had wanted to do so again. I carried a camera along this time, casually, and occasionaly stopped to focus in on what I envision as barren diversity. There's an album over at the users-gallery for photo postings, if anyone would like to see some of the images. I took hundreds along the way, but have only uploaded a small portion. I'm not even sure if they're the best of the lot.

The trail certainly remains beautiful (with the exception of the section between Rts. 532 & 563, near Chatsworth, which is lined with litter and houses, and also spends two miles on a paved road).

We walked through a prescribed burn while enjoying the Lebanon State Forest section last week; a surprise -- smokey, but atmospheric.

Thanks for looking.

Take care,
Bill

http://gallery.njpinebarrens.com/data/475/medium/btna026_(2).jpg

http://gallery.njpinebarrens.com/data/475/medium/IMG_0446s.jpg

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Boyd
03-17-07, 03:27 PM
Those are some great pictures, thanks for posting them! I really like the Penn Swamp Branch photos (the one in portrait mode with water rushing by).

TeeGate
03-17-07, 04:34 PM
Nice photo's. I bet your clothes had a burnt smell when you arrived home. But the experience made it all worth it I would think.

Thanks for posting.

Guy

james ungehajer
03-17-07, 05:35 PM
Real nice photos,liked all of them.

bobpbx
03-17-07, 09:56 PM
Gorgeous, lovely photos. I especially liked "trail".

whippoorbill
03-18-07, 10:46 PM
Nice photo's. I bet your clothes had a burnt smell when you arrived home. But the experience made it all worth it I would think.

Thanks for posting.

Guy

Thanks, Guy ... and guys. The trail photo-journal (of sorts) was nice in that photography helps one slow down and frame his surroundings.

Partly inspired by the other photos I've seen posted here on this forum, I picked up a new digital slr camera. I have a lot to learn about photography, but it's nice to have an area like the barrens to challenge one's creativity in revealing their beauty.

http://gallery.njpinebarrens.com/data/475/medium/pakim_pond.jpg

http://gallery.njpinebarrens.com/data/475/medium/IMG_0352a.jpg

I'll keep going back.

Also, this spring I'd like to return the the Shawangunk Mountains in New York and try to capture the essence of their dwarf-pine plains. There's just something about scrawny lil' pitch pines ... :)

bobpbx
03-19-07, 09:16 PM
Also, this spring I'd like to return the the Shawangunk Mountains in New York and try to capture the essence of their dwarf-pine plains. There's just something about scrawny lil' pitch pines ... :)


I always wanted to go there....

whippoorbill
09-16-07, 09:30 PM
This batch wasn't taken in winter (but today, in fact) and has nothing to do with the Batona Trail, as this thread title might suggest -- but I didn't want to start a new thread to show off more photos. Sooooo ...whenever I take any pix deemed worthwhile, I'll post them here. Maybe I can figure out a way to retitle the thread.

It's not often I visit the barrens during the day (whippoorbill isn't my name for no reason), but those below were obviously taken during the strange period of daylight :); all within the whereabouts of Beaver Pond on the Mullica.

The next full moon I'm going to give some nighttime time-lapse photos a shot. I recall seeing a few night-time shots posted on the forum before that were quite nice. Has anybody else given this a shot?

Thanx for lookin'
Whipp'dbill

http://gallery.njpinebarrens.com/data/554/medium/IMG_2345s.jpg

http://gallery.njpinebarrens.com/data/554/medium/IMG_2366s.jpg

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TeeGate
09-16-07, 09:43 PM
Very nice shots! It proves your camera works in the daytime :mrgreen:

Guy

bobpbx
09-16-07, 10:47 PM
Nice shots Bill. Tell me something. I can't seem to consitantly shoot a subject in the foreground in focus. Here is one that did not work today:

http://home.comcast.net/~pbxBUSINESS/GIARDIA.JPG

And one that did:

http://home.comcast.net/~pbxBUSINESS/ASTER.JPG

8 out of 10 times I try, the subject is blurred. What am I doing wrong?

TeeGate
09-16-07, 10:59 PM
8 out of 10 times I try, the subject is blurred. What am I doing wrong?

Welcome to my nightmare :)

Guy

Boyd
09-16-07, 11:14 PM
Looks like an autofocus issue where the camera is confused about what to focus on. Manual focus is usually difficult or impossible on inexpensive digital cameras unfortunately. However some of them give you a cue as to what they're choosing. My little Canon SD600 draws boxes around the things it's focusing on... does yours have a feature like that?

Also there may be a menu choice for autofocus mode or something like that. In that picture you would want to select a mode to focus on the center on the frame instead of a mode which evaluates the whole scene.

OTOH, you might have also been too close to the object to get sharp focus. You also need to be aware of something called "depth of field" (DOF). When the iris is wide open you don't have much DOF which means only a small range of objects will all be in sharp focus. Can you select ISO setting on your camera? This is the equivalent of film speed on a regular camera. Higher ISO settings offer greater sensitivity to light. If you're having these DOF-related problems, try using a higher ISO setting if possible. That should force the camera to choose a smaller iris opening which will result in greater DOF - in other words, objects which are farther apart are more likely to remain in focus.

If your camera has an aperture priority mode then try that also, and choose a smaller aperture, like f8.0 or f11.0 (larger f-numbers are actually smaller iris openings); that would also help. Again, you might need to switch to a higher ISO number to still get a good exposure.

Boyd
09-16-07, 11:18 PM
Sorry Whipporbill, I forgot to compliment you on the great photos! Why don't you want to start another thread? It doesn't cost anything extra and these pictures certainly deserve it :dance:

bobpbx
09-16-07, 11:34 PM
Boyd, the box(es) in auto is confusing, but like you say, I do have a center one in manual. I'll try that. While in manual, I'll try the higher ISO setting too.

whippoorbill
09-17-07, 08:38 AM
Boyd nails the answer to your question, Bob (and Guy). I was so frustrated with my small, basically point-and-shoot digital -- I eventually picked up a digital SLR (when they became affordable) . When I get up and close, I simply click the lens in use over to manual focus. The camera also has close-up settings, which sorta gives one the depth-of-field look Boyd also mentions. It's often nice having the subject focused and the background blurred.

Good luck and keep shooting. The photo work displayed on this forum is incredibly good.

whippoorbill
09-23-07, 10:58 PM
I made some first attempts at time-lapse (bulb) photography around the Mullica and Batsto rivers last night. The top photo below was taken along the Batona Trail around midnight (9/23/07); it's a minute-long exposure using available moonlight. The moon is waxing this week; hopefully next weekend I'll be able to take advantage of the fuller moon and see if I have better luck.

The other photo is a 15-second exposure taken directly at the moon.


http://gallery.njpinebarrens.com/data/556/medium/IMG_2416s.jpg


http://gallery.njpinebarrens.com/data/556/medium/IMG_2395.jpg

Thanx for looking,
Bill

TeeGate
09-23-07, 11:01 PM
Nice Bill! That paint does not look pink! :mrgreen:


Guy

whippoorbill
09-23-07, 11:17 PM
Nice Bill! That paint does not look pink! :mrgreen:


Guy


I wasn't seeing any color at all when I was taking the photo. :) However, I'm in the barrens so much at night, I've evolved owl-sized eyes.

Hmmm ... the photos look quite a bit blurrier here on the thread (at least on my computer) than they do over on the gallery. If they look blurry there at home, gang ... shoot on over to the gallery for a slightly better peek.

"A hoot-hoot here, a wonk-wonk there, here a hoot, there a wonk, everywhere a hoot-wonk" -- whippedbill

dogg57
09-24-07, 09:42 PM
Cool Shots...what Fstop was your camera on?

whippoorbill
09-26-07, 01:40 AM
Cool Shots...what Fstop was your camera on?

I had it set at 5.6, I think. (My field notes are buried out in my car now :)) To be honest, I paid much more attention to the time of the exposures the first time out.

Boy, the moon has been kicking out some light the past couple of nights; but I won't be able to get back out and play with the camera until the weekend.

whippoorbill
09-29-07, 03:18 AM
http://gallery.njpinebarrens.com/data/556/medium/IMG_2456s.jpg

Simply the loveliest of nights; I gave the timelapse effect another go this evening, with a brighter moon, getting brighter results.

Bill

TeeGate
09-29-07, 07:04 AM
Nice one Bill. Out late again :)

Guy

whippoorbill
09-29-07, 11:21 AM
Nice one Bill. Out late again :)

Guy

Yeah. A little late. :)

My boys were along last night -- a little basic training for future "all" night adventures. The worst torture was making them stand still for a minute at a time while I attempted to take some portrait shots.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o286/soma611/IMG_2468s.jpg

Below is a 1.5 minute exposure taken just above the Beaver Pond section of the Mullica River.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o286/soma611/mullicariver.jpg

Last, having camera fun through the windshield while sandroading back to 206.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o286/soma611/IMG_2480s.jpg

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whippoorbill
10-06-07, 11:05 AM
More nocturnals:

A sand road to no where

http://gallery.njpinebarrens.com/data/556/medium/IMG_2484a.jpg


... and another of the moonlit Mullica

http://gallery.njpinebarrens.com/data/556/medium/IMG_2454a.jpg

DaveMcL
10-18-07, 04:25 PM
Great shots, Bill! I've yet to be in the pines at night, but I certainly will be soon after seeing these shots.

Anyone know if the tower on Apple Pie Hill presents a good option for some night horizon shots? I climbed up there on my first trip into the pines. Took some night sky shots (30-minute exposures) up in the hills of North-Central PA a couple of weeks ago, and now I'm hooked.

TeeGate
10-19-07, 05:47 PM
Anyone know if the tower on Apple Pie Hill presents a good option for some night horizon shots? I climbed up there on my first trip into the pines.

The main problem with Apple Pie Hill is there is always someone coming and going. Each time I have been there someone comes.

Guy

DaveMcL
10-19-07, 05:54 PM
The time I went up the tower was during the fires this summer, and there was someone up top with a radio. Is the "hatch" to the top always closed? Don't get me wrong, it was still a great view from the stairs going up...

I'd imagine you could get a great view of the sky from almost anywhere, but can anyone think of any other good spots to get a nice landscape/horizon view of the pines?

whippoorbill
10-19-07, 11:56 PM
The time I went up the tower was during the fires this summer, and there was someone up top with a radio. Is the "hatch" to the top always closed? Don't get me wrong, it was still a great view from the stairs going up...

I'd imagine you could get a great view of the sky from almost anywhere, but can anyone think of any other good spots to get a nice landscape/horizon view of the pines?

I'm thinking Apple Pie Hill gives the best all-around view of the horizon in the barrens. On clear days and nights, one can make out the skylines of Philadelphia and Atlantic City; plus the 360-effect is overpowering. Try some photos from the Apple Pie Hill, Dave. Guy is right, there's a constant flow of traffic heading there; it's rare when I've been able to get the place to myself. Having folks around shouldn't interfere with photoshooting, though; except that step-climbers might rattle the tower during long exposures.

Spring Hill is a location that offers nice horizon views, but you have to move around the area to gain views in alternate directions.

Manumuskin and I did some wandering around Oswego Lake last Saturday night. A nearby bog had some wild fog action going on, so we directed the headlights of my truck over the water and I came up with the photo below. I s'pose only a night owl like myself can appreciate stuff like this.

http://gallery.njpinebarrens.com/data/556/medium/IMG_2803s.jpg

I'm going to have a go at some nocturnal lake and meadow photos under the full moon next weekend at Makepeace.

Bill

LARGO
10-20-07, 01:04 AM
Manumuskin and I did some wandering around Oswego Lake last Saturday night. A nearby bog had some wild fog action going on, so we directed the headlights of my truck over the water and I came up with the photo below. I s'pose only a night owl like myself can appreciate stuff like this.
http://gallery.njpinebarrens.com/data/556/medium/IMG_2803s.jpg

Bill

That.. is very cool. A very surreal quality of an animal's nightvision.
I like it, thanks!

g.

ChrisL
10-21-07, 11:48 AM
Whippoorbill and everone, very nice photos. I went to the photobucket at the first posting and after the barrens, there is a band. Can I ask who is in the band? The first photo was blurry and I thought the guitarist was Warren Haynes.

whippoorbill
10-21-07, 12:55 PM
Whippoorbill and everone, very nice photos. I went to the photobucket at the first posting and after the barrens, there is a band. Can I ask who is in the band? The first photo was blurry and I thought the guitarist was Warren Haynes.


Chris,

Yikes; I'd forgotten about the initial post on this thread, which is supposed to link to additional Batona Trail hike photos. I need to reorganize my bucket so the music photos are separated from the barren shots. The latter photos are still there, but on following pages.

The band you're inquiring about in the photo is synthesist Chuck van Zyl (Penn's WXPN Star's End program host) and Art Cohen, guitarist, both of The Ministry of Inside Things. These were taken at my home, as the guys come here to perform what have so far been beautiful sunset concerts every summer. The photobucket site is loaded with photos of other rather obscure musicians playing live as well (Robert Rich, Jeff Pearce, Ian Boddy) -- names I'm sure no one here has heard of; but each is a great, innovative musician nonetheless.

Bill

this_is_nascar
10-21-07, 04:08 PM
The time I went up the tower was during the fires this summer, and there was someone up top with a radio. Is the "hatch" to the top always closed? Don't get me wrong, it was still a great view from the stairs going up...

I'd imagine you could get a great view of the sky from almost anywhere, but can anyone think of any other good spots to get a nice landscape/horizon view of the pines?

My wife and I have been there a couple times when it's been opened and occupied. Both times, the person allowed our group to enter and explain what he does each shift. It was pretty neat, from what my wife told me. I can't make it past the 4th level of the tower, so I've never been to the top or inside.

TeeGate
10-21-07, 10:31 PM
My wife and I have been there a couple times when it's been opened and occupied. Both times, the person allowed our group to enter and explain what he does each shift. It was pretty neat, from what my wife told me. I can't make it past the 4th level of the tower, so I've never been to the top or inside.

Physically can't ...... or.......... can't?


Guy