NJPineBarrens.com http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/ This is a discussion forum for NJPineBarrens.com - exploring the Ghost Towns of Southern New Jersey en Thu, 09 Sep 2010 08:59:17 GMT vBulletin 60 http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/njpb-images/misc/rss.png NJPineBarrens.com http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/ Articles are going away! http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/site-news-games/7863-articles-going-away.html Thu, 09 Sep 2010 02:03:35 GMT Hey all --

So it seems like 99% of people who come to the site are coming here for the forums, I've decided that - for the time being at least - that the site is going to be forums only plus the gallery and NJPB Live Maps.

So in the coming days www.njpinebarrens.com is going to redirect you to forums.njpinebarrens.com rather than show you the homepage.

I just don't have the time or energy to maintain that part of the site anymore, and without any new content showing up it just looks way too lame.

Maybe when things settle down in my life I'll relaunch it, but like I said, it's more effort than what it's worth considering that this place is known mostly for the discussion forums.

So print out/copy and paste what you want to save now. ]]> Ben Ruset http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/site-news-games/7863-articles-going-away.html Walkin’ Jim Stoltz last walk.... http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/general-discussion/7861-walkin%92-jim-stoltz-last-walk.html Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:36:56 GMT passes on at 57. Has traveled over 28,000 miles on foot. Met him once in Yellowstone in the Old Faithful Inn, he led one hell of a life. http://www.walkinjim.com/ passes on at 57. Has traveled over 28,000 miles on foot. Met him once in Yellowstone in the Old Faithful Inn, he led one hell of a life.

http://www.walkinjim.com/ ]]> General Discussion 46er http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/general-discussion/7861-walkin%92-jim-stoltz-last-walk.html 2010 Double Trouble Cranberry Harvest http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/get-togethers-events-trip-reports/7860-2010-double-trouble-cranberry-harvest.html Wed, 08 Sep 2010 15:51:58 GMT Was out geocaching the other day and stopped at Double Trouble. Sign on the park information building says the tentative dates for this years harvest is October 8 until October 11, subject to change based on leaseholder's schedule.

County has posted no parking signs all around the park entrance on Pinewald Keswick and Double Trouble Roads. Guess there were some problems last year with all the people.


The Double Trouble website has been updated recently and has more on the harvest. From http://www.state.nj.us/dep/parksandf...ks/double.html:

Cranberry Harvest at Double Trouble State Park:
Several cranberry bogs in the Double Trouble Village section of the park are leased and maintained by local farmers. The leaseholder is on site daily; please use caution on the service roads around the bogs and reservoirs.

Unlike the days when the village's population of migrant workers would dry harvest the cranberries by hand over the course of several months, the leaseholder utilizes the modern wet harvesting technique of flooding the cranberry bogs and using machines to knock the berries off the vine. The cranberries then float to the surface of the water where they are corralled and removed from the bogs for processing. This wet harvest requires fewer people and is faster; it now takes less than two dozen people under a week to harvest the cranberry bogs at Double Trouble Village.

The harvest is open to the public to observe and usually occurs in mid-October. The public is not allowed to pick the cranberries or go into the bogs. Cranberries harvested at Double Trouble Village are taken to a central receiving station in Chatsworth and are not for sale at the park.

The Double Trouble Village cranberry bogs are located between a quarter mile and a mile walk along dirt service roads from the parking area; no vehicles are allowed in the village. As this is a weather dependent livelihood for the leaseholder, there is never an exact start or end date; the berries are harvested once they are ready to be harvested. An approximate start date as provided by the leaseholder is posted on the Double Trouble interpretive center bulletin board and voicemail (732) 341-4098 after Labor Day. Please note that this is only an approximate date that can easily change at any time dependent on the leaseholder’s schedule.

Once the harvest has started, the voicemail message will be updated. The Double Trouble Village harvest takes approximately 4 days and the leaseholder usually starts working by 9 a.m. and works through mid-afternoon, usually reaching a breaking off point sometime between 2 and 4 p.m. The cranberry harvest is not a demonstration or a festival – it is an actual harvest by the farmers who have been maintaining the bogs in the Double Trouble Historic District.

Watching the harvest is self guided; there are no harvest tours and reservations are not required. Signs at the interpretive center in the park information building will direct visitors to the cranberry bogs. Various stages of the harvest may be observed, from the flooding of the bogs to the knocking of the berries, forming the famous cranberry “raft” as the floating berries are corralled to one side of the bog, and removal of the berries for shipment to the receiving station in Chatsworth. (See Historic District Trails and Cranberry Bogs Map, for village bog locations.)

On harvest days that the Double Trouble interpretive center is open there will be scheduled tours of the early 20th century cranberry packing house that was used during the dry harvest era at Double Trouble village; there will also be a video of the dry harvest filmed at Double Trouble Village in the mid-20th century playing throughout the day in the interpretive center. ]]> Get Togethers, Events, and Trip Reports bogger http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/get-togethers-events-trip-reports/7860-2010-double-trouble-cranberry-harvest.html Pinlands Artist http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/newspaper-articles/7858-pinlands-artist.html Tue, 07 Sep 2010 23:05:44 GMT All,

Scroll down and look for the video of the "Pinelands Artist" and make sure you click on the "captions" at the bottom right of the video. In the video you will see my photo of Bobpbx at the Marble Spung as well as other great photo's. I want to congratulate the artist for her talent, and for choosing one of my photo's to paint. Well done! And I hear there maybe more to come :)

http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/loca...ow/news/2.html


Guy ]]> Newspaper Articles TeeGate http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/newspaper-articles/7858-pinlands-artist.html Native NJ legends (Lenape etc..) http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/legends-lore/7857-native-nj-legends-lenape-etc.html Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:12:01 GMT Hi all, first-time poster and long-time reader...jus curious if anyone has any stories/legends from the lenape/original inhabitants of NJ? I'm of the opinion that the "devil" sightings etc... are perhaps older than 1735 and Leeds Point...

Thanks for reading this and I appreciate any knowledge from the forum,

Jim ]]> Legends and Lore jtkelly78 http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/legends-lore/7857-native-nj-legends-lenape-etc.html fishing on labor day http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/recreation/7855-fishing-labor-day.html Tue, 07 Sep 2010 03:56:38 GMT I actually had to work today but before I did I got out and did some fishing. Wasn't having much luck till I switched to the right lure. Then they were hitting real strong. I only took one action photo since the floating sedge everywhere was making it difficult to get a good pose from the fish.



Beautiful day. I don't know for certain what heaven looks like, but I am pretty sure it is alot like this.



Jeff ]]> Recreation woodjin http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/recreation/7855-fishing-labor-day.html Dumping trash by Mt Misery Rd. http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/general-discussion/7854-dumping-trash-mt-misery-rd.html Tue, 07 Sep 2010 03:27:55 GMT Was out today on my dualsport and came upon a pile of couches and a large white trash bag dumped near the end of the dirt part of what I believe to be Mt Misery Rd. Just before you cross Rt 70. As I passed the pile I noticed that I could see an envelope through the plastic trash bag. I turned... Was out today on my dualsport and came upon a pile of couches and a large white trash bag dumped near the end of the dirt part of what I believe to be Mt Misery Rd. Just before you cross Rt 70. As I passed the pile I noticed that I could see an envelope through the plastic trash bag. I turned around and dug the envelope out, hoping to find a address. I found several names and PO box #s from Brownsmills as well as what looks to be a crack pipe. Is it worth it to go to the authorities and report this? Does anything ever come of it? What have you guys done in similar situations? ]]> General Discussion ZZ3GMC http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/general-discussion/7854-dumping-trash-mt-misery-rd.html Exploding Deer Population http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/nature-environment/7853-exploding-deer-population.html Tue, 07 Sep 2010 00:33:56 GMT Just curious if anyone is noticing that there are just a ton of deer in the pines this year. A buddy of mine mentioned to me how he has been seeing so many more deer up here and I agree. Yesterday I was tracking a snake and driving around the pines for the better part of the day and must have... Just curious if anyone is noticing that there are just a ton of deer in the pines this year. A buddy of mine mentioned to me how he has been seeing so many more deer up here and I agree. Yesterday I was tracking a snake and driving around the pines for the better part of the day and must have seen over 30 deer, many of which were with young. I'm also seeing a real high amount of bucks this year, some unusually big ones too for the pines. Is there something in the biology of deer that makes them more noticable or out and about this time of year? I've had people swear to me that deer are becoming rarer in the pines because of yotes or other reason.....I'm not seeing this at all. ]]> Nature and the Environment dragoncjo http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/nature-environment/7853-exploding-deer-population.html Chigger Relief http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/general-discussion/7852-chigger-relief.html Mon, 06 Sep 2010 22:14:12 GMT I recently was told that this product works wonders on eliminating the itching from chiggers. Anyone try it before? If you do let us know. http://www.amazon.com/Queen-Helene-Masque-Mint-Julep/dp/B00008CMOQ Guy I recently was told that this product works wonders on eliminating the itching from chiggers. Anyone try it before? If you do let us know.

http://www.amazon.com/Queen-Helene-M.../dp/B00008CMOQ


Guy ]]> General Discussion TeeGate http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/general-discussion/7852-chigger-relief.html Blending in http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/photographers-phorum/7851-blending.html Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:07:34 GMT They blend in well. Image: http://teegate.njpinebarrens.com/09062010/IMG_5501.JPG Guy They blend in well.



Guy ]]> Photographers Phorum TeeGate http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/photographers-phorum/7851-blending.html <![CDATA[White Canby's Lobelia near Beaver Pond]]> http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/nature-environment/7850-white-canbys-lobelia-near-beaver-pond.html Mon, 06 Sep 2010 13:42:50 GMT A beautiful, white Canby's lobelia found in wetlands near Beaver Pond on a recent botany outing.


Attachment 1978
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version Name: 193_Canbys_Lobelia_White.jpg Views: N/A Size: 65.0 KB ID: 1978  
]]> Nature and the Environment Pines Lover http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/nature-environment/7850-white-canbys-lobelia-near-beaver-pond.html Stream Assessment Workshop http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/get-togethers-events-trip-reports/7849-stream-assessment-workshop.html Sun, 05 Sep 2010 23:04:52 GMT SVAP Stream Assessment Workshop. Excellent opportunity to learn about streams, wetlands, macro inverebrates and invasive species. And help Rutgers Water Resources Program assess NJ streams using the USDA Stream Visual Assessment Protocol * Volunteer Stream Assessment Training* Stream... SVAP Stream Assessment Workshop.
Excellent opportunity to learn about streams, wetlands, macro inverebrates and invasive species.
And help Rutgers Water Resources Program assess NJ streams using the USDA Stream Visual Assessment Protocol


Volunteer Stream Assessment Training
Stream Assessment Volunteers Help Protect Our Local Streams
Saturday, September 18
10-1pm
Auletto's Catering Hall, Deptford

The South Jersey Land & Water Trust is gathering information on the health of local streams so as to prioritize future restoration efforts including stream cleanups, tree plantings, stream bank stabilizations, non-native species removal, and more.
Volunteer are needed to conduct visual assessments of stream reaches in the region's watersheds. During the assessment, both general and specific information about the stream reach and surrounding watershed is recorded (i.e. stream width and depth, bank stability, streamside vegetation, and surrounding land use).

ANYONE interested in healthier waterways can be part of this program. No specific background is required. Residents of any age, students, municipal officials, families, and farmers are all invited. Stream assessments can be done successfully with a small amount of training, although you will learn a lot from your participation. The program is user friendly and you can contribute as much or as little time as you like.
RSVP Required. Contact Christine at 856-881-2269 or cnolan@sjlandwater.org



 ]]> Get Togethers, Events, and Trip Reports Pines Lover http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/get-togethers-events-trip-reports/7849-stream-assessment-workshop.html Black deer!?! http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/nature-environment/7848-black-deer.html Sun, 05 Sep 2010 14:57:23 GMT So me and my sister took the jeep out in Wharton yesterday. while we were out we both saw a black deer. I know that it sounds weird and i have never heard of it before but we both saw it and neither one of us wanted to be the first one to say it was black, for fear of being called stupid. I... So me and my sister took the jeep out in Wharton yesterday. while we were out we both saw a black deer. I know that it sounds weird and i have never heard of it before but we both saw it and neither one of us wanted to be the first one to say it was black, for fear of being called stupid.

I didn't think all too much of it, but I told some of my cousins, and they started arguing with me saying that there was no such thing as black deer, and it must have been a bear. However, I clearly remember seeing the white tail as it ran away from us.

Does anyone hear have any input??? ]]> Nature and the Environment Gruf http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/nature-environment/7848-black-deer.html A trip to Jemima Mount and Rockwood Road bogs 09.04.10 http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/nature-environment/7847-trip-jemima-mount-rockwood-road-bogs-09-04-10-a.html Sun, 05 Sep 2010 14:13:02 GMT Jemima Mount 09.04.10


Attachment 1970


Attachment 1967


Attachment 1968


Attachment 1971
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version Name: 02 09.04.10 Jemima Mount s .jpg Views: N/A Size: 75.9 KB ID: 1967   Click image for larger version Name: 03 09.04.10 Jemima Mount s .jpg Views: N/A Size: 74.9 KB ID: 1968   Click image for larger version Name: 08 09.04.10 Rockwod Rd bog s .jpg Views: N/A Size: 86.6 KB ID: 1969   Click image for larger version Name: 01 09.04.10 Jemima Mount s.jpg Views: N/A Size: 79.3 KB ID: 1970   Click image for larger version Name: 04 09.04.10 Jemima Mount s .jpg Views: N/A Size: 82.2 KB ID: 1971  

]]> Nature and the Environment Pines Lover http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/nature-environment/7847-trip-jemima-mount-rockwood-road-bogs-09-04-10-a.html Plant and spiders compete for food http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/newspaper-articles/7846-plant-spiders-compete-food.html Sun, 05 Sep 2010 10:28:03 GMT This shows us that destruction of plants can effect the bugs and maybe wildlife in the area where the damage occurred. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38991313/ns/technology_and_science-science/ Guy This shows us that destruction of plants can effect the bugs and maybe wildlife in the area where the damage occurred.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38991313...ience-science/


Guy ]]> Newspaper Articles TeeGate http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/newspaper-articles/7846-plant-spiders-compete-food.html