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    Oldest House in the Pines?

    Folks:

    I recently came across this undated and unattributed newspaper clipping about Upper Mill. Since the piece mentions Route S-40, the article has to date to before 1953 and the Grand Renumbering route scheme undertaken by the State Highway Department. I think it was probably published in the 1930s. In any case, I thought you would all enjoy it without any appended commentary from me and perhaps have a few chuckles with it:



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    It would be nice to find those ruins.

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    I believe that was mentioned in Beck. I used to live in Presidential Lakes, and I was told it was near where the swimming beach is today. I moved there in 1966.
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    Very interesting article Jerseyman, thank you for posting it! I find it soebering and somewhat eerie how the praise stated in the article for the new NJ-S40 (present day NJ-72), is indirectly and in some cases directly related to the demise of many such sites in these "forgotten" towns.

    It would be interesting to see if there were any ruins still around from this relic. Specifically, since it did mention NJ-S40 it would have to be between 1927 and 1953, stating that it's new I would lean towards the former as you stated ~ 1930. A 1927 map shows the highway as being unbuilt, however a NJ state government issued 1930 map I have shows S-40 built, but only out to the Ocean/Burlington border. So I'd guess the article is from sometime shortly after 1930. NJ-40 (NJ-70) is shown as being under construction in 1930.
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    I had always assumed that S-40 was built atop an existing dirt road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruset View Post
    I had always assumed that S-40 was built atop an existing dirt road.
    Well... yes and no . Like many state highways it did travel on existing dirt roads for at least some portion of it's allignment. In the case of S-40 an existing dirt road from Four Mile to present day CR-539 in Ocean County was updgraded. Southeast of there it was a new cut, as the road then continued onto Barnegat vs Manahawkin. So technically while there was access before the state highway went into effect, it didn't really give the public easy access with a paved road like S-40 did. Before 1927 (to 1916) there was a numbering system in effect too, but it mainly consisted of various trails/gravel roads strung together with many changes to the numbering system during those years- it was a mess.

    30-40 years after all this there were serious proposals to build a NJ-72 freeway, and give it an I-895 designation, in what could have been the next phase for the road... thankfully that died many years ago. But we all know what the area could have been like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mts83 View Post
    Very interesting article Jerseyman, thank you for posting it! I find it soebering and somewhat eerie how the praise stated in the article for the new NJ-S40 (present day NJ-72), is indirectly and in some cases directly related to the demise of many such sites in these "forgotten" towns.

    It would be interesting to see if there were any ruins still around from this relic. Specifically, since it did mention NJ-S40 it would have to be between 1927 and 1953, stating that it's new I would lean towards the former as you stated ~ 1930. A 1927 map shows the highway as being unbuilt, however a NJ state government issued 1930 map I have shows S-40 built, but only out to the Ocean/Burlington border. So I'd guess the article is from sometime shortly after 1930. NJ-40 (NJ-70) is shown as being under construction in 1930.
    Michael:

    It appears you enjoy collecting New Jersey Official Road Maps, as I do! Yes, I agree with your timeline for the highway and the article. In fact, the author and artist, Earle Horter, was popular during the early 1930s and had died by 1940. There are 46 hits about him on Google, but I found this one to be rather interesting:

    http://www.areaofdesign.com/americanicons/horter.htm

    Glad you enjoyed the article!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeeGate View Post
    It would be nice to find those ruins.

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    I agree, Guy. Are you going to look? What could possibly be left from 1720?????

    An intriguing article--thanks, Jerseyman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glowordz View Post
    I agree, Guy. Are you going to look? What could possibly be left from 1720?????



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    I think Bob said it was no longer there.

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    I posted this in a similar thread regarding this house, but here it is again. I visited there once and I think I remember someone in the area telling it was MOVED because it was being vandalized. I don't know if that's true or not because I couldn't find anything more about it but it makes it possible that it could exist somewhere.

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    It was known as Peter Bards log cabin. If you google Peter Bard cabin and go to the site HABS/HAER/HALS:Titles:267 you will come to a list of historic sites. Scroll down to find Peter Bard log cabin andthis site has a photograph of the cabin along with drawings of the location confirming Bob's info. Look down a couple links in google and you can link back to a photograph that Ben has downloaded to njpinebarrens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oji View Post
    It was known as Peter Bards log cabin. If you google Peter Bard cabin and go to the site HABS/HAER/HALS:Titles:267 you will come to a list of historic sites. Scroll down to find Peter Bard log cabin andthis site has a photograph of the cabin along with drawings of the location confirming Bob's info. Look down a couple links in google and you can link back to a photograph that Ben has downloaded to njpinebarrens.
    Thank you, Tom! Your information, along with the previous postings in this thread, is exactly why I go to the trouble of providing the posts that I do. I am not looking for accolades; my only rationale is to provoke a discussion and to foster other people to conduct some research on their own. If you recall, in my initial posting in this thread I stated, “In any case, I thought you would all enjoy it without any appended commentary from me.” I already knew the information you just provided, but I consider it a privilege if I can assist others in learning.

    Keep up the good work, Tom, and everyone else!!

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