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  1. svr32

    While We Were Sleeping, Very Bad Things Happened

    Typical example of the idiocy of these closures, that road is pristine. I would love to know what the reason was to close that road as well as many others. Sure wasn't motorized vehicle abuse, and then someone goes and drops tress to keep people out. Man, I guess a few tire tracks in the sand...
  2. svr32

    While We Were Sleeping, Very Bad Things Happened

    at this point I myself haven't heard of any tickets generated via camera. Honestly, I think they would have to be pretty lucky to get a legible pic of someone's tag. I have only heard of summons via in-person interaction by park police, and I don't think any of them are thrilled or in favor...
  3. svr32

    While We Were Sleeping, Very Bad Things Happened

    I was thinking about the debate again when the PPAs Jason Howell kept pushing the liability and safety issue. (by the way John Druding did and excellent job and kept cool) Let me preface this first by saying I think everyone should enjoy the diverse legal activities in the pines, but once you...
  4. svr32

    While We Were Sleeping, Very Bad Things Happened

    I was on Tuckerton Road, coming from Washington Turnpike heading toward Carranza, crossed Hawking Turnpike and I believe it was the next road that crossed with trails on both sides of Tuckerton Road. It did have a new small wooden barrier blocking the trail beyond the strips. The camera there...
  5. svr32

    While We Were Sleeping, Very Bad Things Happened

    I was out this weekend and noticed they are moving fast with the signage. I also wanted to verify if they were really using cameras and yes I found one. They are using cellular trail cams mounted up in the trees about 10 feet high. I looked in the most obvious place where they had a large...
  6. svr32

    While We Were Sleeping, Very Bad Things Happened

    I saw this come up on youtube from last night, a debate between Jason Howell and John Druding about the access restrictions in Wharton State Forest. If you don't want to get angry, don't watch it. The defense of the road closures is not only being presented by the PPA as conservation driven...
  7. svr32

    While We Were Sleeping, Very Bad Things Happened

    you are not grumbling, you are 100% correct. What the DEP did here under the influence of the PPA is a crime to the residents of NJ. They really don't realize or care what value the freedom to roam respectfully is to the residents. So please do not ever think this is complaining, its voicing...
  8. svr32

    While We Were Sleeping, Very Bad Things Happened

    wow, I also hadn't realized Rob Auermuller is the NJ State Park Service Southern Regional Superintendent. No wonder things resumed where they left off back in 2015 when the map was squashed over the first unannounced takeover. I seem to remember him being removed and sent up to north NJ after...
  9. svr32

    While We Were Sleeping, Very Bad Things Happened

    Looks like the park police got their orders from the DEP. Now its enforce and intimidate to keep everyone off the newly deemed illegal roads. I am in agreement with stopping all of the mentioned offenses, however what really aggravates me is the sudden motivation to do so. Too little too...
  10. svr32

    DEP Announces Virtual Public Meeting to Launch Wharton State Forest Visitor and Vehicle Use Survey

    "If you showed me some of the contents of that op-ed with no other context I’d assume it was written by Jason." I was thinking the same thing when I read that article. Thats the kind of one sided fluff only Jason and the PPA can generate. The DEP is an absolute out of control agency. Who can...
  11. svr32

    DEP Announces Virtual Public Meeting to Launch Wharton State Forest Visitor and Vehicle Use Survey

    this link will help you can send Senator Tiver a message here: https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/legislative-roster/464/senator-tiver/contact
  12. svr32

    DEP Announces Virtual Public Meeting to Launch Wharton State Forest Visitor and Vehicle Use Survey

    I agree 100%, many of the roads on the map marked for closure are in great shape and not in need of repair. Many of them don't have puddles or go arounds to begin with which is why I travel them and are some of the most scenic roads in Wharton. The goal is to keep people confined to what they...
  13. svr32

    Washington Tpke 745 acre thinning bid

    AGREE, took a ride out to Batsto yesterday and what an awful disappointment. Washington Turnpike showcased what a ride in the pines is. I don't know much about forest fire management so I can't judge but I do know one thing... an incredible scenic area is being destroyed. I had no idea those...
  14. svr32

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    I keep having this thought that the review of the MAP, the meetings and all of the concern shown by the Superintendent and the DEP to the public are merely damage control for the way this was rolled out. I fear after they make the sneaky rollout attempt right and check the box that public input...
  15. svr32

    ORV Management In Sensitive Areas Of Wharton

    I have been reading this thread for weeks and I cant hold it in anymore after reading the article in the Press today. I am so tired of seeing Armeuller point out the same old picture of the ruination of Mount Jemima. Yes, I admit that is horrific damage and no one here would argue that an area...
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