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Bradys Rangers in the Revolution realized Green Clothing helped conceal them in their bush fighting tactics,a precssor to camo? Of course the injuns were already masters at it

https://boydsmaps.com/#17.00/39.631269/-74.625574/lidar2022hd/0.00/0.00 perhps a faint road on crosshairs? Slightly east of road on map but heads north from river further north https://boydsmaps.com/#18.00/39.641225/-74.622216/lidar2022hd/0.00/0.00 even further...

That line your on I believe is a trench .I remember a prominent trench on that particular dune which was quite a gorgeous little island.

You are correct,no sign of that road whatsoever.Now look at the crosshairs here https://boydsmaps.com/#17.00/39.639733/-74.632663/njgin1930/0.00/0.00 What is this east west feature? A road or just a photographic anomaly?

I"ve never seen that map.We can look for evidence of that road when there.You'd think there would be a causeway for that road as well.I was all over that swamp when I was exploring it for several months every weekend.I don';t remember a north south road and I"m usually good at picking old roads...

I think we have two separate conversations going on this thread.Perhaps a Mordecai Trench thread?

That would be so but perhaps their lines did extend across ancient 542 and into the swamp to the future 1808 road but they dug no trenches in the swamp for obvious reasons.The British may have used the road but aS they approached batsto they would not have been in column they would have fanned...

No Bob somehow I had missed this post. Yes they had to put the artillery some where and the troops no doubt had selected positions but where? They may not have realized the British had no intention of proceeding further after Chestnuy neck and may have been ready for them.I forget where I read...

I hadnt seen the ones that far away. I stand corrected. I would say yes dunes. On some of those dunes in Mordecai are trenches, some near the road and some not. I could understand borrow trenches along road but further away I’d think the would just dig pits.Yes we definitely need to check them...

I think the LIDAR is better then I could have ever hoped for.I will take tracks files of the trenches and we can overlay them on the LIDAR and maybe get a better idea of what to look for in identifying the trenches on LIDARIf I remember right they were knee to thigh deep and just wide enough to...

Gabe I"d be glad to hit thwe swamp together and settle this.I am now having sunday and mondays off.will have the next five sundays off but in a few weeks will be having saturdays off as well. If the road wasn't built to 1808 then iot definitely wasn't incorporated into breastworks and if the...

I think the plan was to sneak up the Mullica and attack Batsto by night?

More breastwork/entrenchments? https://boydsmaps.com/#16.00/39.628807/-74.605213/lidar2021bw/0.00/0.00

https://boydsmaps.com/#16.00/39.636830/-74.619118/lidar2021bw/0.00/0.00 Matter of fact looks like a breastwork to me encircling this coord to the east of it making a good blocking position approaching batsto from the east or the south (If the swamp was cleared for a field of fire so the British...

Actually this breastwork or ridge is not the road and if I recall what you see here were trenches.The road is south of here and angles se to crowleytown https://boydsmaps.com/#16.00/39.634541/-74.621328/lidar2021bw/0.00/0.00

Brainstorm? Could the road have originally been a breastwork and later this was taken advantage of to make a road out of it? Hmmm??? :)

If the road was no there then the trenches that follow it were not either so Gabe would be right about those trenches,that would not explain however the ones further south where there is no apparent road,unless of course the trenches are older then the road and the road just happened to follow...

Okay have established that the man who built Crowleytown wasn't even born till 1788 so the town was not there.Could the road have followed present 542 on down the river to Tuckerton? or somewhere else on the coast or maybe just went to an old landing on the Mullica near present Crowleytown?the...

One section of trench is visible on 2021 LIDAR https://boydsmaps.com/#16.00/39.636107/-74.630076/lidar2021bw/0.00/0.00 Also where the trenches do follow the road why are they only on the southern side? The road is much bigger and higher then could account for the little bit of sand that...

I am going to plan a trip to Mordecai soon as the weather warms up a bit but before the leaves come out.I"m going to map the trenches and photo them. I remember many of them being quite far south of the road. They were large enough for me tpo get in on my hands and knees and almost deeo enough...