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Yeah, I think the DMV won't let you smile anymore.

Can't get there from here. I'd consider trying the APP again after leaving it 12 years ago due to an awful website. They run boring stories for 3 days in a row on the front page. Now they want $10 per month. Can you tell me in broad terms what they say here?

Meth. A real quick trip to the very bottom of society and your life.

Yes, there are going to be those hikes. I usually don't go, but only because I'm not an early riser.

The way this entire story was handled and reported bothers me a lot. I thought of a couple reasons why they are deceased, but I'll wait instead. I don't want to upset their children.

I highly doubt it unless they have a special permit. (edit: after seeing Guy's reply, I think he may have a point. But, small game in the plains? Shotgun is not open for deer yet, I'm thinking).

Guy, are you actually in an old cranberry bog in the last photo? Was wondering about the berm.

Yes JD, eerily similar to the Zeldin incident.

It baffles me that the press can't make a simple map showing where they live, where they found the atv, where the searchers are looking (and why) etc. The updates are totally useless to those who would like to help. And how the devil can an ATV get stuck in a field as the article says?

And so, when climate change causes planned development to be flooded, the taxpayers will foot the bill to protect the development?

They are doing that right. It is good land right now with those meadows, need to keep some of them. I would think the township already owns it to put all that work into the planning.

It's been so long I forget what Wicked Garden's real name. Is he one of the people talking in the podcast? https://hartcalu.com/about-the-authors/

Nice Tom, you aced it. The day before Sandy hit if my memory is correct.

Yes Tom, 90 points for you. You need 10 more to ace it.

Not good enough for you, because you've been there I need the place. Not the coordinates, but the place.

Where is this (90 points), and who is this (10 points).

You'd think the dogs would pick up a scent right away, but the article does not say blood hounds, it says K9's. I don't know if trailing is their main occupation.

An update? Something ain't right with this incident. https://www.app.com/story/news/local/emergencies/2021/11/24/missing-stafford-nj-couple-atv-found-near-their-pine-barrens-home/8751419002/?itm_medium=recirc&itm_source=taboola&itm_campaign=internal&itm_content=BelowArticleFeed-FeedRedesign

I was there in the Spring and it was very clean. Were you in areas away from the main paths?

Right up your alley Boyd, though I know you'll say too busy and not enough pay for the effort. https://blackrun.org/job-opportunity-gis-mapper/