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But Vollie, on an average day, when your fire break would have worked, there would be no threat. The moisture in a Cedar swamp will kill a fire on an average day. And even if not, then just park yer trucks at the next road and make your stand! :clint:

Gone deep underground.

Vollie, in my humble, obsequious opinion, you are really stretching it a tad. Exactly as you planned it eh? Remember son, I live in Bamber, and have for 30 years. I've been to that swamp on both sides. Nobody in the fire service steered the fire in the direction of that cedar swamp with a long...

Really? Like these below? In the lower ones the guy ran the dozer right up to the cedars next to the creek. And for no logical reason. You all really know how to put a spin on this subject. The problem is, you are not out there to see what we see.

Star Tree, I respectfully disagree with that assessment. Nothing...and I mean nothing the fire service did had any affect on the direction that fire took. That fire was out of control and hotter than the hinges of hell's gate. Look at the 95 map again. Bamber was saved by Cedar Creek and the...

Yeah, I have a comment. What a tragedy to break up the pine plains wilderness like that. But I knew that the Forest Fire service had made their big play for that action right after the Warren Grove Fire, so there was no stopping the State's intentions. They had the local politicians and people...

There is no such thing as protecting the natural resources of the Pine Barrens from a catastrophic fire. It is in fact how they are created in the first place. And, I am not looking for answers as if we were little kids. What I want to see is the DEP take an honest and independent evaluation...

German, as you know, the target time to burn is under very specific weather conditions. I have never seen a wildfire in the winter. This is over-precaution to the point of destroying the woods. Period (Sir). This should not be a science project for them every year. PS: They have burned some of...

It may have been...I forget. Email her and ask her if she remembers and what came of it. Kerry represented the FRMC at the meeting. I was working.

Vollie, I heard that half-assed explanation in the past. If that is true, then what they are doing is 10 times overkill. What you are saying is that they need a path to walk down with a drip flame fire starter. HOW RIDICULOUS IS THAT! Why not not be a man, get with the technology, and do it on...

I never discount youth in these exploring endeavors. Why, after all, look at Gabe. He always shows up in a white pressed shirt, bowtie, and sneakers--and yet he finishes clean and fresh as a daisy!

Gib, I wrote one last year on behalf of the FRMC. They did come out with a woman timber rattler specialist (she was there to learn what they were doing wrong), and they got their ears chewed off. They promised action, but all they did was place very small sticks at the entrance to the...

A daily battle Mark!

Scott, is your memory starting to slide? Is this a sign of your advancing years? I said "Hey, I found grapes"! :p

Yes, I did. Did you read Stephen Lee's?

It is very interesting to read the public comments. Chances are you'll recognize some of the commentors. It is simply amazing how many people want to meddle with our wilderness by changing it into something else for their benefit...and all the while couching it as a benefit to all. See the link...

Tsk, tsk. No politics young man! :p

I cannot say for sure since it is my stepfather's name. Moyer is German. My real last name (and I am such a dolt for not changing back to it at the age of majority) is Poulsen. I am Dane/Italian/Irish.

This was the first 45 I ever owned..."Tuesday Afternoon". It was portentous of things to come for me in that day and age. It really does spur memories.

Mind you though, we don't seek it out, it finds us!