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I think that stakeholder meeting had a very good tone to it. I'd like to hope the public meeting on Nov. 5 will be a continuation of that productivity. But if it's just a rehash of all the same rhetoric that started all of this, then people are going to get quickly overcome by their emotions.

I think it comes down to who the players are and what policy they support. This isn't like Chick-fil-a, where people were boycotting them because of the views of the owners - views that are not advocated in their restaurants and don't have any impact on how customers are treated. Even with BP...

Exactly. That side has already made that concession. Exactly x 2. Even if the story about those people mudding during the clean-up was true, it's outrageous to consider that incident more important than removing several tons of garbage. It's a shocking lack of perspective that leads people to...

That's probably the biggest shame of all. The two sides of this united for a common purpose would probably put fear into the hearts of any opponent. That's nice in theory. But it requires trust and there isn't a lot of that going around right now. It also requires compromise. One side has to...

Exactly. Which is why I made the point about them trying to pass themselves off as experts when they're not. I got into it with one of the PPA drones because he tried to say that cutting down trees to block trails was the same as clear cutting and that benefits the Pine Barrens. That almost sent...

I don't doubt it. And, just like with the trees they cut down, they wouldn't think twice about the impacts of paving those roads. They raise a fuss every time someone else steps on a weed, but are willing to make exceptions to their own rules to suit their own agendas. It's like they have a...

The PPA is fighting so hard to support the MAP because it was their plan. Even before any part of it was released to the public, they were endorsing it to the media, which means they knew about it before anybody else did. How? Because they were the only ones Rob Auermuller consulted while it was...

Great video, Dave! I would have loved to have some of that footage for my video. Check it out here. It's got the date for the 10th Annual 4 Wheel Drive Pines Barrens Clean-up at the end. Mark your calendars now! I'm sure it's going to be even more successful than 2009. For computers with...