4 Day's Of Exploring

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All,

Some photo's from my explorations this holiday weekend.

On Thanksgiving morning Jessica and I searched for more of the Rider stones and came up empty. Because of that I did not take any photo's. On Friday morning Jessica and I met up with Al (manumuskin) to some some exploring on the Maurice River. We met early and canoed across the river to look for a Geodetic Monument that was on our route. Unfortunately, the 8 foot of beach had washed away over the years and the ground around the monument had washed away. We found it under the water by using a paddle and then reaching in with our arms.

Here is Al poking for the monument along the shore. You can see the witness post just above his head. In 1970 is was 8 feet from the shore line.

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Our main goal was to make our way by canoe to a location on an upland area where Al had discovered an old homestead by using HistoricAerials. The road to this farm is no longer there and he wanted to visit the location and see what we could find. On our way there jessica took this photo as she sat in the middle of the canoe.

The Maurice River.

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Here is a video as we tried to make our way through the phragmites. In the end we were not able to make it there and we had to give up on our quest.

Jessica taking the video of my back.

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Ted Gordon has been interested in my stone searching finds, and especially my Rockwood explorations. Earlier this year we made a decision to go this November and earlier this week he wrote me to set up a date and time. Saturday was the day, and at 8AM we met at Atsion and headed out for me to take him to them. I had expected flooding, but the area which is quite remote was deeper than expected. Jessica and Ted had slightly shorter boots than I did and ultimately they both had wet feet.

Ted and Jessica reaching the stone. They both were troopers.

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I used blue street chalk to bring out the letters. If the stone looks familiar it is my Avatar. Notice how wet Ted's pants are.

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Because Al, Jessica, and I were not able to make our intended goal on Friday, Al and I decided to make a very early attempt this morning to get there by foot. So long before sunrise I headed down and met up with Al just as the sun was coming up.

A 1956 aerial of the homestead we wanted to visit.

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Within 5 minutes Al was soaked. This shows him standing on the ruins that the red arrow points to in the above photo. Sorry for the blurry photo but it was semi dark. You can see the sun just starting to come up behind Al.

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We also found the house ruins but for the most part not much was there. We did find this unusual item further from the house and have no idea what it is. I was thinking an outhouse but it was too far from the house for that to be true. Plus, the house seems more modern. In any event, does anyone have an idea?

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By 8:20 this morning we were finished and I was home by 9:25.

Guy
 

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Maybe it is a well.

The photo does not show you that the concrete tapers down to the hole, almost like you would see in the floor of a gym shower or restaurant kitchen making it easier for the water to flow towards the drain when cleaned. If the place had chickens the coup may have been there and when they washed it the water would drain out. That seems far fetched since the rest of the place most likely would have been wood. Oh well!

I took Ted to two of the R&W stones also. We tried for the West Mills R98 stones but that was also flooded.

Guy
 

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Also, while at Aston I got to see member ChrisR again. He noticed Jessica as we were saying our goodbyes to Ted. Chris, I apologize for not recognizing you at first but as soon as you mentioned the mansion tour I realized where I had talked to you before.

Guy
 

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The reed jungles are truly a world of their own.In the summer they seem right down tropical from a canoe or kayak when the creek starts to get tight.You'd think you were in SE Asia which is where I believe Phragmites originally hail from.Not nearly as productive as the cattail marshes they are replacing but kind of neat all the same.
 

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The reed jungles are truly a world of their own.In the summer they seem right down tropical from a canoe or kayak when the creek starts to get tight.You'd think you were in SE Asia which is where I believe Phragmites originally hail from.Not nearly as productive as the cattail marshes they are replacing but kind of neat all the same.

Are Phragmites considered an invasive species? Australis?
 

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Also, while at Aston I got to see member ChrisR again. He noticed Jessica as we were saying our goodbyes to Ted. Chris, I apologize for not recognizing you at first but as soon as you mentioned the mansion tour I realized where I had talked to you before.

Guy

Guy, no apologies needed my friend. It was nice seeing you and Jessica again. Hopefully we can meet up when we're both starting out on our days trip.
 

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Are Phragmites considered an invasive species? Australis?
I don't know if our species is australis but the genus is Phragmites and yes they are invasive.From Asia,they have little or no food value to the local wildlife like Cattails do.The only way to kill them is supposedly flood them.Their roots take tidal flooding with ease for short periods.You will only find them growing where their roots are only inundated at the very height of the tide.Burning makes them thrive,digging does not help but if you dike them and flood them they will die.sea levels rising flood them out toward shore but they expand into swampland as water levels rise.Very cool to make trails through and play in as a kid but not an ecological advance.
 

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Manumuskin, I was suprised that they are invasive. I always thought most common reeds where native. I can't tell the difference between the two. They where fun to play in and always a good source for making whistles.
 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phragmites
It appears I am partially right.There are native Phragmites but they believe the reason they have taken over the marhses is because it's a new species introduced from overseas that is more agressive and looks like the native species.
I have never heard of whistles but they make mean arrows.Indian would insert wooden plugs into the reeds at a joint and make a knock to keep the reed from splintering when pulled against the string (indians pulled on the arrow with thumb and index finger and not on the string like we do) and the reeds made the fastes arrow known to man.I believe they had to insert wood to hod the point too which was usually either a hardened wood point or bone since stone was too heavy for the reed.In any case whichever species it be has all but wiped out our native cattail swamps.I still know of a few good ones left but as sea levels rise the reeds are taking them over since they tolerate brackish water better.
 
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