Corzine won't veto Pinelands project

gagliarchives

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From the Courier Post:

Corzine won't veto Pinelands project

Wednesday, August 9, 2006


TRENTON -- Gov. Jon S. Corzine won't veto a large development project in the Pinelands that environmentalists have called the biggest threat facing the South Jersey ecological area in years.

The Pinelands Commission, the steward group for the 1.1-million-acre national reserve, approved the residential-commercial development plan July 14 after more than a year of meetings and debate.

Walters Homes Inc. wants to build 565 homes and 650,000 square feet of retail space on the Stafford Township site.

Representatives from New Jersey's four largest environmental organizations recently sent a letter to Corzine calling on the governor to use his veto power under the Pinelands Protection Act to scrap the residential-commercial development.

Corzine spokesman Anthony Coley said Tuesday that won't happen.

"We're not planning to veto the minutes," Coley said. "The commission made this decision with full public input and participation following a lengthy process that extended more than a decade."

Jeff Tittel, executive director of the state chapter of the Sierra Club, said the environmental groups may sue the Pinelands Commission and the town of Stafford Township.

"This is one of the saddest days in the history of the Pines," Tittel said. "The responsibility for the destruction of this critical area of the Pines now falls on the governor."

No New Jersey governor has rescinded a decision of the Pinelands Commission.

Environmentalists contend a big residential and retail development in an ecologically fragile area ignores pollution from runoff and fertilizers and sets a bad precedent for other areas in the Pinelands.
 

Trailhead00

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At least that is one area that ATV's will no longer be able to destroy, because we all know ATV's are the real problem, not 565 home housing projects.
 

LARGO

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Only a matter of time. It'll all be screwed soon enough.
Like I stated in another thread, I am not as afraid of the damage of ORV'S and ATV's, etc. as I am terrified of Development and Discard ( which oft go hand in hand )

G.
 

jokerman

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Gov Corzine has not been a good environmental Governor so far. He has made some very bad decisions as far as envl. legislation and I am not impressed!
 

piker56

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Pinelands Protection Act?

What exactly is the Pinelands Protection Act mentioned in the article for if it's not used to protect the pines?
 

Teegate

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As a few of you have mentioned it is things like this that makes giving ATV riders a hard time so hypocritical. I don't see how anyone could stop an ATV and be taken seriously knowing that one day all the property around there will be homes. I would rather have an ATV ride past me than see homes where once there was woods.

As for the governor I still don't like him, but I think he should stay out of it as he apparently has. The less government the better. This is a problem that only the people of NJ are going to solve when the insatiable appetite for larger and newer homes, and bigger and more elaborate stores comes to an end. Somehow I think that is a dream.

Guy
 

BigRedEye

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I don't think the ticketing of atvs has anything to do with damage to property or the environment, or noise, or any of the usual stated reasons. I think it's about collecting revenue.
 

onehand

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business get what ever they want, they always have and always will
the defination of a politican "an elected official who is owned and controlled by rich business interests"
 

swwit

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This is directed to all the people who voted for Corzine. Now you see what you got. A politician who has always been money motivated. Not that most aren't, but he's more so. Why give up being a CEO on Goldman Sachs for what he would call a small paycheck. Well when you can be instrumental in changing or making laws that will help you out in the business world it seems like a good idea. Politicians become politicians all the time for this reason but Corzine has done nothing good so far. Lets not forget shutting the state down. I don't know about all of you but I was always under the assumption that you don't make any money if you close up shop:words: . You just get into more debt.
 

bobpbx

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Switt, you sure have rose-colored glasses. But I think you are wrong too.

Batona, can you give me a cite for that claim? No, never mind, I found it. Forced out by his "partners" apparantly, cause they disagreed with him. Guess you have to watch your back in the business world.
 

Frolickin

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Matt Bai had a wonderful piece for The New York Times Magazine last summer that detailed pushing Corzine out the door at Goldman Sachs. This occurred right after he took the company public. At the time, Corzine was co-CEO.
 

swwit

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Batona said:
Just for the sake of accuracy, he did not give up being a CEO, rather he was forced out.
Thanks for the correction. I went by what others have stated. Thanks.:confused:
 

supercilious

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pinelands development

im not sure that anyone understands it, but Burlington County, Camden County, and the state of New Jersey has said, time before (basically the state dictating expansion goals), that "parts" of the Pinelands will be needed to solve the "population problem" in New Jersery. The "parts" in acerage has never been stated in full, ive read about atleast 10,000 in the next 15 years. This is not something new, the Pinelands is open to development, and will be developed. Its something funny about a state with 7-8 million people having a "land problem needed for development", with population loss in cities, small cities, and major towns from each consecutive decade of census since 1940. Take a nation like Germany, Germany is smaller then Montana and they hold 80+ million people, and easily have more open space then they know what to do with. You can drive Germany, or even the UK, and be in open space farmland or woodlands, but to do that in NJ you need to take a certain path. Those nations, like most in Europe, have strict development laws that halt sprawl, and force redevelopment. In most of those nations you cannot buy vacant land, even 100 acres, and build a house, they wont allow even one residence. Seems "wrong" to some people, but its well known and established, its why they have very low infra-structure costs, and social service costs, which allows them as socialist nations to deal out money elsewhere. Im not into the socialism deal, but im into reality, and the costs of development to anyone with four acres and wishes to build sixteen houses for no reason then profit, and be allowed knowing the burden of government expenses on those houses will never equal the tax return they get from them. I do blame Corzine because i know he is a do nothing liar, so would Foerester, atleast he would give it the ole' try at stupid attempts of property tax reforms, and fund more farmland preservation. Voting, bitching, and moaning is not going to stop the development of the pinelands. Face it, Pinelands laws have no standing, nor does deed restrictions on farms, they can be overturned at will. So enjoy it now, because farmland may be an issue to preserve for now, but the pinelands is "needed for the population of New Jersey". I hope in 30 years we enjoy the new highway from chatsworth to 206, and the expressway, and enjoy the 20,000 new homes that turns Chatsworth into Chatsworth City. Unless government, and voters get responsible on what really costs them in taxes, development will not stop.
 
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