Hidden in a Barn

Badfish740

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Good God! How does a barn full of 75 cars just get "forgotten!?" That guy will make a mint of off those I bet. The toughest part would be deciding what to keep.
 

bobpbx

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To me, it would be much more than the money (though that is good too). I would have a very, very great several years if I found that. I would tenderly take them out one by one and clean and detail them. Then I would do the research to find out what each one was (exactly) and then put them on ebay and watch the fun as people fight over them. WHAT A JOB!

No muscle cars?
 

Badfish740

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No muscle cars?

Actually I spied one Volvo PV544 in there-a muscle car of sorts at least by European standards. I always liked them because they looked like a mini version of an old Mercury or Hudson. I used to be into turbo Volvos and there are many PV's running around Europe (and here in small numbers) that are chopped, lowered, shaved, etc...with turbo 4 bangers making in excess of 100 HP PER CYLINDER! Gotta love those crazy Swedes...
 

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I don't know what the laws are like in Portugal (maybe you just need to bribe the right person? :) ) but I had an experience a few years ago which makes me think it would be a can of worms to find that barn here.

My grandmother died at age 97 several years ago and her estate was straightforward because I was the only heir. She lived by herself right up to the end and had a 1962 Rambler which she used to run errands around her small town in Southern Illinois. That car only had something like 12,000 miles on it and I remember her buying it when I was a kid!

There was a really nice neighbor who helped me clean out the house, and he said his kid was really interested in buying that car to fix it up. So I just gave it to him, but then a paperwork nightmare began. Unlike everything else in the estate, transfering ownership of a car from a dead person was really complicated. I ended up having a lawyer handle it for me and she couldn't believe what was involved, including being sent the wrong forms, submitting, waiting, then filling out the right ones. When all was said and done it took all of 6 months to get that done and cost around $500 in legal fees. I don't remember specifics, but the basic problem was that I couldn't sell or give the car away because it wasn't registered in my name, and changing registration when someone is dead is complicated.

If you wanted to sell or register a barn full of cars with no documentation I'll bet it would be a nightmare. I also wouldn't be surprised if some sales tax were due on the value of your windfall. That was another issue in my case, even though I *gave* the car to this kid, the state wanted sales tax based on its estimated value. When he complained about this I reminded him it had already cost me $500 to give it to him!
 

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Maybe that is an out of state problem, because when my dad died the car was in his name and my mom had no problems getting it in her name and then I put it in mine. Showed the death certificate at the motor vehicles agency and it was done.

Guy
 

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I wonder if that's due to the husband/wife relationship?

So if you walked into the motor vehicle office and wanted to register 20 cars with no bill of sale and no title, and you told them you "found them in a barn you didn't know was on your property," do you think it would be simple? :)
 

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So if you walked into the motor vehicle office and wanted to register 20 cars with no bill of sale and no title, and you told them you "found them in a barn you didn't know was on your property," do you think it would be simple? :)



No..I was referring to a death where you had the title in that persons name.

I would guess in this country that owner would have a nightmare.

Guy
 

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No..I was referring to a death where you had the title in that persons name.

Right... but I wonder if ownership transfer is simpler if a husband dies and the title needs to be transfered to the wife, as opposed to an out-of-state grandson which was my situation.
 

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I would assume it would be tough, but they should accept a death certificate. They have to accept something and as long as you had that something they should have let you register it. At least I would think so.

Guy
 

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Well I was indeed able to register it, but it required lots of red tape. When I first met with the lawyer about the estate, the car immediately jumped out from the list of my Grandmother's assets, and she said it was going to be a can of worms.

Also, when I was in college in Virgina I had a friend who liked to buy old cars, fix them up, and sell them. The state sent him a letter saying if he sold one more car that year, they would consider him a dealer and he would need to get a license. I think the threshold was actually pretty low, less than 10 cars.

I guess if I could choose a windfall of some kind, it would be finding a big box of cash in the barn instead of a bunch of cars :)
 

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Coming into this thread a little late but I really only have have one analogy to make on that article if it were me.
Kid & Candy Store.
 
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