Question about Cedar Grove Park

freerider

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Anyone have knowledge of Edward McGuinness and his property mapped as Grove Park on Simm pl road near Warren Grove?

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Teegate

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What map is this "mapped" on? Do you have it?

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freerider

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Its on a old ocean County tax map 1926.

I have a JPG image of the PDF of the map. Small but viewable. Not sure of there is a way to post image on here yet.

It is near the ATT underground cable and small hut on 539 north of Warren Grove Range road.

Says Property of Edward McGuinness, Grove Park, Little Egg HArbor.

Map shows one road as "Pharos road from Westcreek" which is now Simms place

Is identified now as part of Stafford WMA.

West and a bit north west of 539 ATT hut Simms.

Map divides the property into hundreds of smaller lots.

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Hit the Reply button and when the empty window comes up scroll down to you see "Manage Attachments". Click on that and choose the file and post the post and we will have it.

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If it was east of there, one of the members here may have found a property stone, but west of there puts it on the Bombing Range property.

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I got it. I am trying to visualize where this exactly is at.

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It is interesting to note on the bottom right it says "Monuments indicated thus', and then it shows a little square. And if you look on the ends of all the streets there are monuments. That means they are there somewhere. It would be really sweet to find them!

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Do you have a view of the overall tax map where it would show this portion and where it was located?

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freerider

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No larger map !

I have not found any markers in my search.

I did review later maps of the area and it is now owned by DEP and is in Stafford WMA. Was sold through various tax sales over many years.

No tax map earlier then 1926 could be found.
 

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I am having a problem deciding where exactly this location is along 539. You say by the ATT building but I can't tie the map in with current roads from Westcreek and to Stafford. Maybe I am just not seeing it.


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freerider

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Pharos road from west creek is now Simms pl rd.

My reviewing old 1930 aerial shows the other road which runs north west. Now in the present Aerial it is grown over.

I will see if I can locate the older aerial.
 

MarkBNJ

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I am having a problem deciding where exactly this location is along 539. You say by the ATT building but I can't tie the map in with current roads from Westcreek and to Stafford. Maybe I am just not seeing it.


Guy

Check out the Google sat view the OP posted and zoom out a little. On 539 east and a little south of Oswego Lake.

Edit: ok, OP, I think you are off to the north by a few miles. Check out the area in the center of this view. The slight sandy road curving northeast toward a large clearing is Old Stafford Forge road. The property you refer to was right in this area.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Warre....329462&spn=0.043752,0.055189&z=14&iwloc=addr
 

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MarkBNJ

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See my edit above. If you scroll in on that view I posted you'll see Parker Country Rd, and can still see the outlines of the streets laid out roughly as in the map image the OP posted.

Edit: correction, you can see Parker Country Rd. in GE, but not Google Maps. You can see the outlines of the layout right at the intersection of Parkertown Rd. and 539.

One last edit: what the map shows as Pharo Rd. is now, I believe, Thomas Avenue.
 

MarkBNJ

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Thanks. I love a mystery :). Just another stillborn real estate empire I guess. Would they really have placed monuments at the end of every street? If so it ought not to be too hard to find some of them.
 
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