spung?????

mudboy dave

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anyone ever been here? About a year ago I noticed this while I was satellite exploring. It sprung an interest due to the fact that it is only maybe 2 miles away from where I grew up. My father and I plan on hiking out there one day soon. When I do I'll grab some photos. It appears to be pretty large with the widest section of water being a tad more than 160 feet across.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...d=111901079104381183408.000487a706e2a7a90c34a
 

manumuskin

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anyone ever been here? About a year ago I noticed this while I was satellite exploring. It sprung an interest due to the fact that it is only maybe 2 miles away from where I grew up. My father and I plan on hiking out there one day soon. When I do I'll grab some photos. It appears to be pretty large with the widest section of water being a tad more than 160 feet across.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...d=111901079104381183408.000487a706e2a7a90c34a

I have been in the swamp northeast of the spung visible in the photo across the power lines from your spung but have never been to the spung.the swamp visible in photo is quite the formidable swamp and quite spung like itself.Guy almost killed me in it I believe it was last summer :) there was just me,Guy and a venerable old black rat snake back there though the roar of Atco was quite noticeable.
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Teegate

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It looks like a nice one.

Guy
 

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Teegate

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If you look at the 1931 aerial, there was a road leading to it. Also, as late as the 1995 aerials you can see the state dug fire breaks completely through the woods there. Before you hike to it you may want to travel the roads nearby and see if there is an easy route to it.

http://maps.njpinebarrens.com/#lat=39.761319253073474&lng=-74.80170249938965&z=17&type=nj1930&gpx=

Even the 2006 aerial shows the breaks.

http://maps.njpinebarrens.com/#lat=39.761319253073474&lng=-74.80170249938965&z=17&type=nj2006&gpx=

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I bet that road was an old indian trail. Spungman has documented many such trails leading to and from spungs throughout the pinelands.

If you look at the 1931 aerial, there was a road leading to it. Also, as late as the 1995 aerials you can see the state dug fire breaks completely through the woods there. Before you hike to it you may want to travel the roads nearby and see if there is an easy route to it.

http://maps.njpinebarrens.com/#lat=39.761319253073474&lng=-74.80170249938965&z=17&type=nj1930&gpx=

Even the 2006 aerial shows the breaks.

http://maps.njpinebarrens.com/#lat=39.761319253073474&lng=-74.80170249938965&z=17&type=nj2006&gpx=

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Spung???

Yep,

Mudboy Dave’s closed depression is indeed a classic spung. The 1931 aerial photomosaics illustrate the true form of the Ice-Age blowout, its full dimension demarcated by the flying-saucer-shaped darkened patch surrounding the smaller water feature. On the early aerial one can see view cultural activity had occurred upon the southeastern rim, a typical pre- and post-contact land-use characteristic of such basins.

The southeastern rim is often slightly higher and/or somewhat sandier than the surrounding terrain due to deposition of deflated basin sediments – making it a warm, dry place to camp. Also that portion is often downwind of game and so an ideal place to wait in ambush. In the Arctic today the downwind portions of small ponds are less buggy, perhaps an added benefit for spungs too especially in the past.

PinelandPaddler is right, the trail to the southeast is likely very old. I just returned from a NASA International Planetary Dunes Workshop at the Great Sand Dunes National Park in Colorado. Blowouts within the San Luis Valley had similar cultural exploitation going all the way back to the Paleoindians over 13,000 years ago, and in that park they are extensively explored. It’s a shame we know so little about the early cultural dynamics of the Pine Barrens. The Pinelands Commission is more concerned with streamlining and circumventing Comprehensive Management Plan rules than in studying or preserving our wonderful cultural legacy. Cultural resource surveys are now waived left-and-right during major development, or are so loosely applied as to render them useless. I’ve really been disappointed in their stewardship of late.

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Teegate

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I have two in particular that are right next to each other on my list of places to visit. Because of this post I will check them out soon and post back. One looks like it has been driven through.

Guy
 

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woodjin

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woodjin

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They are the same ones. I visited three. The round one has a road leading to it that is too overgrown for most 4x4's and has large downed trees blocking the way. The second one, the sun glasses, is further down a road from the round one, the road is very flooded with deep ruts and is cut off by a stream that is over 2' feet deep, at that point you have to cross and hoof it. Remember that I was on a motorcycle that gets around things trucks can't. At one time a bridge or something might have been there perhaps.

Here is the round one
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Here is the sunglass shaped one.
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This is the road between them. before the stream
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You can read about it toward the end of the report
http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/f14/remote-water-bodies-7608/


See PM also

Jeff
 

manumuskin

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Mudboy,
Just because advanced folks like Guy and I remember having only three good channels on the tv and having to actually get up to change channels does not make us old,it makes us "historically aware".
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mudboy dave

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Mudboy,
Just because advanced folks like Guy and I remember having only three good channels on the tv and having to actually get up to change channels does not make us old,it makes us "historically aware".
Al
Damn it, I'm not calling yall old. :D I'm just saying that you'd think i'd be up on this stuff considering I'm only 28:D
 
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