Diamondback Terripan

NJSnakeMan

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Today i was riding my bike on our towns bikepath and 15 ft away i just happened to see a turtle poking his head out of the grass. I live right near atlantic city so i was preety amazed how the turtle cross three busy streets, managed to get through all those people and make it =) I've been going to my local marshes recently to photograph some terripans as i do every year but had no luck. hmm maybe im herping in the wrong places =D

here are some attached pics

Brandon
 

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NJSnakeMan said:
Sorry for the bad pic attachment, wouldnt let me post a file bigger then 100, so i just put the terripan pics on my site. There are 4 pics of him, and 2 habitat shots. Luckily i found him before someone else did, they might of took him home and kept him!

http://www.bcurtis1.photosite.com/animalsandlocalwildlife/Chapter2/000_1718.html

Nice find! I have never found a turtle like that.

BTW, I removed the attachments because they broke the boundaries of Ben's pages.

Guy
 

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Stu

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Speaking of turtles, we came across this big girl just down the road from Alloway's Rock. Is this just a box turtle? If so, I've never seen one this large. Shell length was a bit over 2 feet, I'd say. Except for the underpart, the shell was completely black. She snorted at me too.

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She was laying her eggs. That looks exactly like the one I found laying her eggs last year in almost the same area.

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NJSnakeMan

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nice pics teegate what camera do you use? There is a local park near by, there are tons of redbelly turtles, painted, musk, snappers and occasionally you'll run into a box, terripan or a slider. I just went there a couple days a go and there are tons of turtle nests and turtle egg shells laying aroud everywhere.
 

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NJSnakeMan said:
nice pics teegate what camera do you use? There is a local park near by, there are tons of redbelly turtles, painted, musk, snappers and occasionally you'll run into a box, terripan or a slider. I just went there a couple days a go and there are tons of turtle nests and turtle egg shells laying aroud everywhere.


My camera is old....a 2.1MP Canon . I have another shot of one of the red belly turtles that BobM is holding that I really like, but I don't want to keep posting photo's of people who may not want to be in them and may feel funny telling me. So I have been trying to hold back on them for that reason.

Thanks

Guy
 

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TeeGate said:
My camera is old....a 2.1MP Canon . I have another shot of one of the red belly turtles that BobM is holding that I really like, but I don't want to keep posting photo's of people who may not want to be in them and may feel funny telling me. So I have been trying to hold back on them for that reason.

Thanks

Guy

Guy, you are one of the most considerate people I know. Thats whats cool about you.........:cool:
 

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I saw a diamondback terripan on greatbay blvd. in Tuckerton about a month ago. There was a sign all the way at the end of the blvd. that gave some information about the turtle. I believe they referred to it as "a species of consideration" or something like that. Doesn't sound like an official classification but they were saying that numbers are diminishing due to predators and road kill. It was on the way back that I saw one and immeditely moved him off the road.

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woodjin said:
I saw a diamondback terripan on greatbay blvd. in Tuckerton about a month ago. There was a sign all the way at the end of the blvd. that gave some information about the turtle. I believe they referred to it as "a species of consideration" or something like that. Doesn't sound like an official classification but they were saying that numbers are diminishing due to predators and road kill. It was on the way back that I saw one and immeditely moved him off the road.

Jeff


Its "species of special concern" . . . NJ's rank just below threatened--which gives it really no good protections status. Box and spotted turtles are also special concern.

Its funny that you meantion Great Bay . . . I was there about a month ago and in the course of one drive we saw 6 hatchlings on the road. 3 alive, 2 dead, and one who was alive when we spotted him and dead when the bastard behind us refused to slow down or swerve (despite our best efforts).

Here's one of the little guys we were able to help cross safely:
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Bobbleton said:
Its "species of special concern" . . . NJ's rank just below threatened--which gives it really no good protections status. Box and spotted turtles are also special concern.

Its funny that you meantion Great Bay . . . I was there about a month ago and in the course of one drive we saw 6 hatchlings on the road. 3 alive, 2 dead, and one who was alive when we spotted him and dead when the bastard behind us refused to slow down or swerve (despite our best efforts).

Here's one of the little guys we were able to help cross safely:
P5270828sm.jpg


-Bob

Nice turtle, and photo.

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The babies are so cute looking, I wonder if they started hatching yet, i should ride down to the marsh and snap some pictures.... The sad thing about it though is I always find more DOR then AOR terripans
 

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NJSnakeMan said:
The babies are so cute looking, I wonder if they started hatching yet, i should ride down to the marsh and snap some pictures.... The sad thing about it though is I always find more DOR then AOR terripans


The only things you'll find this time of year are nesting females and raided nests. Its still at the end of nesting season--i'm pretty sure gestation is around 70 days . . . and even at that alot of the hatchlings seem to overwinter (a fact i was ignorant of until seeing hordes of them crossing the roads in may). You'd have better luck at the end of summer/beginning of fall.

-Bob
 

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Yes, species of special concern, now I remember. I didn't realize that was an official classification. I am not so surprised that the spotted turtle is on that list but I am surprised that the box turtle is on there. I see box turtles pretty frequently, I see spotted turtles fairly often also, but I am often in areas where they would be likely to be. When I was growing up in Monmouth county there were box turtles everywhere. It really wasn't all that long ago.

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woodjin said:
Yes, species of special concern, now I remember. I didn't realize that was an official classification. I am not so surprised that the spotted turtle is on that list but I am surprised that the box turtle is on there. I see box turtles pretty frequently, I see spotted turtles fairly often also, but I am often in areas where they would be likely to be. When I was growing up in Monmouth county there were box turtles everywhere. It really wasn't all that long ago.

Jeff

I hear ya. I've lived in northern ocean . . . forever. When i was younger I'd see box turtles in the woods and crossing roads all over the place. I once saw 15 box turtles in the period of two hours in allaire. Now . . . I can spend a whole day there . . . or at any of my frequents and I'm hard pressed to find one. I think habitat fragmentation has alot to do with it. Most turtles I've found are ancient--and have likely been around longer than alot of the roads I drive on. I think they're too far apart and the pavement-crossing journeys are too perilous for a healthy breeding population to be sustained in most areas. You almost never ever see juveniles, and I think their longevity gives away how bad their situation is. Once DEP gets a fix on the fact that the remaining adults are non-breeding leftovers from a healthier time--I wouldn't be surprised to see them on the threatened list in the near future.

-Bob
 
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