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German the last part of your paragraph is what I see as annoying the amateur herpetologists (herpers) and puts the me against them thing out there. I think if all parties respect and work together then everything will be ok. At the end of the day we are very fortunate to have the pines here and...

So whats the solution? You and I sometimes agree on things and some times dont. I think there are certainly some bs projects and some good ones. I would just explore more deeply and make sure before blanketing them all as bs. I agree you and many people know alot about snakes in the pines but...

I'm sure the town is excited for the added benefits of the 250K they are putting out.

Actually I'm confused now maybe you just came up martha road and then turned back around. Did you ride the uneven road up and back?

I'm not sure why allen's is so destroyed. It was always a mess with big potholes and both sides. It seems like maybe they were going to repave it and decided not to. I hope they don't pave the road, wild woods back there. No idea why the other road is so uneven, but there are wet spots...

you probably headed on the chute to martha before getting there.

You took allen coal up past to oswego, attempted to turn west but saw the puddle and went further up allen. You hit warren grove around where you indicated and couldn't go further. You took that thin strip of road south of the gate that you couldn't go through and headed west. You then took...

You have to go at about 5mph on allen, its always been one of the worst roads out there but now its just horrific. Kinda good in some ways keeps most of the dopes out. Nice report.

John could you post the video? Would love to see that. I saw one about 10 years back in maurice river township. Also had track down there.

My only advice is avoid Allen road at all cost, its a total disaster. Seems like someone dragged a plow on it for miles.

Jeff, I had a nice blonde one there early this spring. It was also very large but almost every yote I've seen has been big. I also saw maybe a juvie about a week later. All these where right along the straight away were the tracks are close to the road. I've seen deer crossing there...

Can't say or it wouldn't be my favorite place anymore, :)

I'm looking at some homes in Medford/Evesham area. Along Tauton Lake Road up to King James Lake/Kings Grant there are multiple homes for sale and in general there aren't many homes there. I'm just wondering if this area flooded real bad during Hurricane Sandy. Seems odd that so many would be...