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I was wondering that myself. I don't have any answers

Perhaps in this country, but I have to respectfully disagree with your concerning clustering in the PB. It looks like a good idea to pack more people into a smaller area to preserve open space, but that is more people depleting our already diminishing aquafer. More people means more traffic in...

How tremendously tragic. I read the section about the 3 childred that died in the their parents arms. Horrible. Jeff

Nice report Guy, I've never seen the ruins of Horace Patton. I've never come across them. I am surprised, as I've gotten around a bit. Pretty substantial. I'll have to check them out. Any info on the man? Jeff

Great thread. I can see now how the canal was quite a bit upstream from the area of the bridge. Amazing how different the landscape was from the time Bill was riding there and present day. But considering the loss of the lake and the 60 years between...maybe not so surprising. A shame...

Sure, I will show you. Let me know when you are available.

I see it now. too bad about that map on left being permanent now, makes the screen smaller. Hopefully they fix that

that sort of a story breaks my heart.

so the hunter was hunting illegally and shot more than once at humans! I bet there is alot more to this story and I bet it has to do with the hunter's mental competency. Jeff

Welcome to the site. You ought to check out the wilderness campsites in Wharton. Jeff

Nice report Scott. I haven't been back in that area in a real long time. I don't recall seeing the dedication on the bridge so I am wondering if that was built since I've been back there. The river does look significantly more narrow in Bill's picture than now, as Guy pointed out. Scott, you...

I went on MSN live maps/bing and now I see a new format and no birdseye? Anybody know what gives?

Hmmm, I only see the press release regarding forestry practice amendments. It seems the specific amendments are missing from the release. I am curious to see what is new with the clustering (which I think is a bad idea). Thanks for the link though. Jeff

that is one crazy cedar, Chris. a nice find.

Great photos. Thanks for posting these Scott. I remember Bill posting about this sometime ago and reflecting on what it was like to ride a Harley through the pines, and what Wharton was like at that time. Now, chances are I am way off on this but i'm going to take a stab at the last photo...

I had never heard that before but it would not surprise me. They are also extremely canabalistic. they say that they will take food 1/3 their body length, however I've seen them eat other pickerel nearly 1/2 their body length. In fact I have pictures. It is a violent world under the...

well, we've talked about coyotes and wolves but only in a positive sense. He has seen them on tv on kids shows were they are presented in an interesting/educational format. i am not aware of him witnessing anything about the potentially dangerous nature of wild canines. I think the...

Great report guys. I'm sorry I missed this one. Surely looked liked a beating in the best of fashion. there is nothing like getting into areas nobody gets into. Looks like there was potential for disaster but you all made it through. All I can say is: thank God Guy's garanimal tags...

Looks like you have a way with photography as well as words. Thanks for sharing. Jeff

Wow, Al needed a haircut real bad there! Well, I guess it is permanent now...from now on Al will be known as "The Bush Man". Congratulations Bill!! Nice work.