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That is exactly how it works. People that interview well, speak in talking points with every statement being an individual sound bite that could stand on its own. If you are someone that tells the full story or likes to structure arguements with lines of logic, they will eat you alive (ask me...

Many of the newly closed roads that "were never intended for travel" (per Auermuller) sure seemed to have been intended when they were mapped out in 1902?

Absolutely. The first organized motorcycle enduros that included Wharton's Tract were held in the 1920s, because the U.P. of Michigan was too far away to travel every year. I'm sure that some of the same roads being closed today were driven down as soon as the first poor piney scraped together...

Nailing down accurate numbers is unlikely. But it is certainly fair and accurate to say the majority of the roads are being closed. These roads were open to the public when the land was private too. As I understand it, Joseph Wharton took no stance tresspassing or use of the land... he only...

Have you found any accurate mileage estimates? I know by studying the map there a many (soon to be closed) small woods roads and spurs that were overlooked. I'm sure the arguement would be that they weren't legitimate or some other nonsense, but they've been there 30+ years to my knowledge. I...

I'm not a soil guy, but it reminds me of the intermediate layers seen in quarries along the coast (Atlantic, Ocean, Cumberland Co.) before you get down to the pure white aquifer sand.

Pictures from this afternoon of Rob's volunteers preservation efforts at High Crossing. Those PPA member sure know their way around a chainsaw! I just wonder which class Rob took in college that taught this brand of forest management?

RedNekF350... There is not much that surprises me anymore - but this map to truly a gutpunch. Thanks for posting it anyway. I am heading to a meeting tonight and having a tangible map will make the meeting MUCH more productive. 46er: I have had many personal friends and club members urging...

46er: Thank you for clarifying. Any information I've managed to come across is from users trying to negotiate with him at IBSP... maybe they just like to think they got him kicked out. I don't have access to Auermuller's resume. ;) There are two sides to every story. Facts and all.

I should note, many of these opinions are not my own creation. Some are mine, while others are facts and actions that I have seen along the way... but many of the statements above come directly out of conversations with DEP employees and interns. This is a neatly packaged body of knowledge...

46er: I'm not laying out a battle plan and, with a name like O'Brien, I certainly don't dabble in crucifixions. I'm introducing you to your opponent and the layout of battlefield. Lots of people seem to get won over by Rob's nice guy approach... I've worked with him on projects and wasn't the...

There are a few things the PUBLIC as a whole needs to understand about Rob Auermuller and the FIRST PHASE of these closures. I have been working with and watching Rob since he came to WSF and I am slowly learning more and more about his time at Island Beach State Park before he got kicked out...

FWIW, I only know this is going on because some one dropped me a message and sent me here. I haven't actually logged in for years. I don't get over to Carranza much anymore... too many people in the woods, many of them off their rocker.(Like the crazy dog lady that spends hours every week-all...

It's not a public road on public land... it's a CLOSED road on the STATE'S land. "Know your place, you ignorant tax-payer..." This is the road to my old bowhunting spot from 20+ years ago, closed (permanently) to allow repair and 'healing' from motorized damage. It hasn't changed in 20 years...

Thanks for posting that map 46er - that clarified it for me! I knew some of the roads have been part of the wilderness area for a long time, but I wasn't sure if Hay Road was one of them. It's pretty much all been said :bear:and all the information is here for anyone that wants to read...

Devilstoy: Uh - wow. Trying to figure out what you're even talking about? I'm involved with NJTLC, I volunteer for several organizations, and I have every right to question how things are handled... especially on the end of enforcement. My tax dollars PAY for enforcement and I think the...

To put it bluntly: The question of enforcement has been posed several times... I haven't heard a satisfying answer yet. The resources simply aren't there IMHO. What most concerns me about that is that there ALWAYS seem to be people AGAINST motorized access looking for permission to write...

On the contrary, it WAS legally posted 'No Motor Vehicles' on the main road that parallels the railroad tracks (back when it was just a SMALL mess and a MINOR eyesore). First by the old-style engraved wooden signs in the 90's and then by the white paper signs about 5 years later. I haven't...

I think an important point to clarify is that NJTLC was essentially started by a group of responsible 'affiliated' motorized recreation enthusiasts that banded together to open a dialogue among the various groups and it expanded from there.... not the other way around. Despite various...

Hi Everyone... I haven’t been on this board in years, so I had to re-register. I am the NJTLC representative from the Enduro/Motorcycle community and I just wanted to clarify the issues to date. Portions of 1/4 mile have been marked ‘NO MOTORIZED VEHICLES’ several times over the past 20+...