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I just hope the state and local authorities are successful in stopping people from trashing out the mountain. I agree, that an ATV or dirt bike can be annoying when you are trying to enjoy yourself hiking. The Christmas before last I was enoying the peace and quiet walking along a greenbelt...

Great analysis of the ecological details of the project in question, German. Good forest management does not use a one size fits all approach but relies on applying sound scientific principles to a specific area and situation. Barry, I agree that in an area such as the Golf Course, it would...

It appears that responsible, competent people already have a good start on where to begin timber harvesting in the Pine Barrens. I don't claim to know all the details about the forest areas in the Pine Barrens. That's what the people running this project do. Are we to conclude that because...

It's too bad that only licensed vehicles are allowed on forest service land. East Forked River Mountain, which can be accessed via a dirt road off of Lacey Road on the outskirts of Forked River, would be a great place for an ATV. There are sand trails from the mountain that are wide enough for...

Yeah, and so the East Forked River Mountain, like the mountains the Al Queda fled to in Afganistan, has become a place where desperados hang out. The trash on East Mountain evidently has become the local township's problem. East Forked River Mountain affords a great view. I imagine the view...

Thanks for the technical tip, Guy. I think I remember doing something like that before. I forget how I did things sometimes. My daughter taught me a similar trick. http://wmuma.com/caretaker/pinebarrens/njcf.html There, I think I got what I wanted on this page. Notice the line, in the...

I think I passed Albert Hall on my way to the eastern entrance to Forked River Mountains. Waretown is where I made a left from Route 9 as I headed north. It sounds like a good place. The entrance charge is reasonable and it is a non-smoking establishment. I can dig bluegrass, Pinelands...

I can't find where I thought I read that Forked River Mountain was a result of dumping gravel and sand,guys. I think I read it in a library book. I'll have to try to find it. Yes, it does sound interesting, Barry. Something like that sticks in your head. The link you posted, Guy, says...

I followed your directions, Guy, which along with directions from a guy from the state forest fire service, led me to the top of Forked River Mountain. I headed south on 539, and clocked .5 mile on my trip odometer at mile marker 16. Just past the Cedar Hill Fire Tower, exactly at .5 mile, was...

Was that a retorical question, Bob? How many people do you think were put out of work because of "people like you?" The answer is LOTS. Here's a sample of what environmental extremists do to society. Forunately, the tide is turning, as evidenced in the report of timber harvesting in the...

This IS getting interesting, German. Wow! The woods are really opening up to timber cutting. The project, and following projects, are an excellent example of wise management! Species which needs some open woods will benefit, gaps to help fires from spreading are being created, and the state...

I've only walked small portions of the JCCR. I've walked on it from Quaker Bridge Road, heading towards Carranza Road, and a little in both directions from Carranza Road. There was one other area where I walked, but forget where it was, where there were sections where you had to get off the...

You're right, Guy, development is the big threat to the Pine Bar rens. I'll have to follow your directions to Forked River Mountains to see how much the area was developed from that end and to see if the Pine Barrens commissioners speak with forked tounge. The population explosion is a good...

Thanks for the directions, Guy. It may indeed be best to pick up a geologic survey map of the area, which BobM said on the tread about maps could be bought at the Lebanon State Forest office. I am familiar with route 539. In fact I pick it up in Allentown, NJ and is one way I go to the Pine...

Guy, So my instincts were right that I would get stuck if I drove along the sugar sand road. Interesting name, "sugar sand." The sand really does look like sugar in that area. I remember reading something about some preservation areas in Forked River. There was a lot of private property in...

Below is an interesting link I found about ghost towns in the Pine Barrens vicinity. It not only tells you where they are, but gives you a little history on them as well as how some of them got their names. http://www.pressplus.com/pinelands/towns/dead.html

Well, Barry, this forum is not being neglected! It seems we have all kinds of people who have an interest in the Pine Barrens. Interesting you brought up John Muir, Bob. Unlike the extremists who run the Sierra Club now, John Muir believed in responsible timber harvesting. If you were more...

I guess even off-road vehicles are not invincible! This reassures me that I made the right decision on one of my recent jaunts into the Pine Barrens. I drove across Quaker Bridge, en route to Lower Forge. Someone with me wanted me to drove further on the sandy road to get closer to the hiking...

For many years, the New Jersey Pine Barrens was that remote area "out there" for me. My younger brother went to a camp pronounced "Hal-Oh-Wah-Sah. I remember him talking about cranberry bogs. I also remember visited a camp in the Pine Barrens -- maybe it was the same one -- where I climbed a...

Update It's good to find tall trees, Barry, and find the different kinds of them in the Pine Barrens. Walking south on the Batona Trail from Apple Pie Hill Fire Tower, the trail is skirted by stands of tall (for the Pine Barrens) trees. There are also some good size clearings in between...