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Now you got the area under my hat percolating! My first thought is that maybe the satellites determine the lat/lon of a certain spot by measuring is relation to a home station which also moved with the axis shift? Whatever the answer is I think having an event powerful enough to actually move...

Thanks for the info. I just found out tonight that I may be down there in the near future on a botany field trip.

I'd give old Curt my money, he'd play all day for me.

Could someone list the roads around the area that can still be driven on.

Al, I think you made a great suggestion. If a road doesn't directly lead to the area of concern keep the main road open and post signage in the woods and access points on the closed side of the road. Sort of like if the area ran alongside rt.206 you wouldn't shut down the highway.

Scott, Sunday was the first project by NJTLC. Any projects to be done have to first have the approval of the superintendant of Wharton.

Njtlc are just a group of concerned citizens and have no more authority than any other person. We can write down license plate # and report them to the Park Police.

I think the best way to get any answers or to make comments would be to post on the NJTLC forum. Then you can get your answers directly from the source.

All roads closed are access roads to 1/4 mile. NJTLC will be maintaining the signage and keep an eye on the area. You can get more info at njtlc.org.

A very enjoyable afternoon. I ended up buying 5 books from Ted, almost as many as Turtle.

I recorded it at around 3:00 pm near he old ORV track in Chatsworth. I went to check a plant and was drawn in by the sirens sweetly singing.

Yeah I cant get it to download

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Bill, I'm glad you made the mistake of taking your camera along. I have never been to Sea Breeze but I have visited the place many times!

I got out for a little while to check out two plants. Tipularia discolor (Cranefly orchid) and Lygodium palmatum ( Climbing fern) on a small trail nearby. I found both plants and I also found two ticks when I got home.

Is missile listed?

Nice fish Chris. One of the lures I use in Whitesbog is a jointed J-7 in a flourescent orange color.

Sewage treatment?

A dump?