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Through careful planning or maybe just good sense, the Governor's mansion isn't in beautiful Trenton Al. I That would be too cruel. (Well maybe not for this new Governor) It's in the Hoidy Toidyest of all places, Princeton. Take me to Drumthwacket Jasper ...

Hard to believe they actually started the burn today with this wind. The neighborhood is starting to look a little more than hazy. :eek: Even more concerning is that the wind is out of the south and blowing toward my house which is 80’ off the woods line.

Interesting. I just through in my zip code and there are a ton around but none that are convenient. Closest was about twenty miles.

We walked from Salter's Ditch almost out to 206 and back and that was the only area where I saw any ties.

First, let it be known that this may be the most hijacked thread of all time. We have gone from Guy pushing a Super Duty with no fuel, to stones, to NJ Geo monuments, to coyotes, to GPS Theory and Applications 101 and back to finding stones. Well, let the hijack continue. Here are a few photos...

Nice find Jess ! Outstanding trowel work Guy ! Good thing she brought you along. :)

It’s my job. :) We are running the dogs along Salters Ditch behind Atsion with Mike and his girlfriend right now.

Walked back to the old location of 4019 Saturday morning. The view is looking toward 4020. I also photographed 4019 in my yard. You can see that the mold for the monument is a simple galvanized bucket. The hinge for the handle is intact.

Well the news just broke. Jesus, could he have taken any more drugs at one time ???? What a shame. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tom-petty-died-accidental-drug-overdose-family-says/

Ed, The short answer is that the "fancy stuff" really has no bearing on resolving boundaries. A stone that is called for in a deed carries more weight in the evidence rules than bearings, distances or coordinates when it is physically recovered. It doesn't matter what technique or equipment was...

A little precautionary message Al. I never worried about running our dogs off-lead down here and I have been here for 33 years and have had multiple dogs over those years. They have been trained to come back to me with the "HERE !" command and they are both pretty good with that. The springer...

You're not confused Al. The tie sheet shows exactly what you are saying. However, over time, the center of the fork must have slowly built up by road grading and normal woods traffic over 75 years or more until it was no longer in the roadbed itself. The 10.80' tie would no longer be valid...

4019 was never in the road Al, it was safely inside the wye in these two roads. The monument is a concrete filled bucket and probably only weighs 60 lbs. I'll send a photo later. http://maps.njpinebarrens.com/#lat=39.69521400832566&lng=-74.80594762131346&z=15&type=topo&gpx=

If you have the lat/lons for the plants from your handheld the easiest thing to do is to convert the locations to State Plane coords using this tool from the Guvmnt: Corpscon Set your input for geograhicals (lat/lon) in NAD 83 and your output for NJ State Plane in NAD 83 One click and bang ...

Yes Al, 4019 and 4020. I never understood how 4019 came to be dug out. It was located between a fork in two roads, surrounded by trees and completely out of harm's way. Someone would need to have known it was there and how to find it using the NJ Geodetic tie sheet information. There was nothing...

:) I knew you knew some German but that was impressive ! I had two years of it in high school but I had to use an online translator to fully understand your response. Anywho, the simplest way I could explain the datum concept is that GPS yields a position on the face of the earth. That position...

Wow, that was amazing 46'er. Hard to believe they were both exercising that much restraint.

The GPS information is needed Bob when an agency wants the work in NAD 83 and NAVD 88 datums. It is not used to determine if a survey is right or wrong in any way. A boundary is a boundary and we still use the bearings and distances from the deeds to generate a boundary figure. Putting your...

On Guy's key map above, I did not look for the ones that he circled. I found the pair to the Southwest; 2019 and 2020. The line of sight was over locally named White Bridge which is the wood bridge over the Albertson. 2020 should still be alive. 2019 is in my yard.