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That's very interesting. I collect plants, and have most of the PL ferns in my collection. But I'm purely a generalist (but do favor grasses and sedges), and when I do encounter a fern I don't know, I pray the sori are intact and mature. That's rarely the case!

Thank you for opening up. I've not been on a trip in 5 years or so. I used to consider leading trips into the pines, but I always discarded the idea thinking that people on the other side of the river have either seen it all, or would not care to be thrust that deep into the swamps and...

Wait, did you see northern italy AND southern italy? And I said above I just realized my mom's grandfather (on her mothers side) is not Irish, but likely Italian. (Last name: Cassese). So that must be the tipping point to Northern Italy. My mom's last name: Zaccardo. Add Cassese, and you have it.

To make it more complex, I did Ancestry as well, and that is below on the right. I have not reached the point where I want to dig deeper. By the way, I seem to age a bit every time each of these websites sends me a new email to try and tease me into spending more to dig deeper. That turns me...

Interesting Ron. I recall Beck mentioned it in one of his books.

Interesting. Some similarities with me, but my mom's father was Italian. Her mother was Irish, my Dad was a Dane.

I lived there several years and never heard that it was moved. I figured it had burned down. I wonder if it's still there near Ongs hat.

What did your DNA say about your origins Al? What part of Europe?

I'm watching this thunderstorm now around medford. It was headed towards barnegat, then reversed course. Odd.

You speak like you have a background in the wild plant world. Would you care to expound on your background?

Curly grass is way more numerous than people think it is. The ones at Webb's Mill (at least the ones near the boardwalk) were small in comparison to others in the pines. Do you have habitat on your property that's suitable?

Guy, a relevant painting by Terry.

Schizaea and clubmoss is mosty found in damp areas also containing Sphagnum, so I'm not so sure going to bare sand is a good start for them.

By the way Boyd, I found out that this Block 46, lot 16 in Plumsted Township is now owned by Ocean County Land Trust. Rowan is not updated for that, but the NJ tax map is. Go figure. 40.090662 74.484109.

Yes, you are right. I'm surprised Google is not closer. This is the Rowan Map.

Filling out a survey report, and I always report the township. I had no idea that Plumsted Township actually extends down into a portion of Whites Bog.

And look at the cedars in the background in Guy's first photo. All dead from those river rats.

A lovely spot Guy.

If you took it for free, it would cost you maybe, what, 30 to 40 grand to remove the building and clean up the lot.

Wow, 1800 built. That is a long time for that building to stand.