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That top one looks like Rubus cuneifolius. And it does look like Black Locust at the bottom.

Wow, Dave wasn't kidding about taking some time to go through them. Too bad they don't digitize them.

By the way, I contacted Dave Snyder (author) about his find of 50 or so Bald Cypress in Wharton. This is from the article in the Annual Report: "On 14 November 2018, while taking a short cut through Wharton State Forest, I whizzed through an Atlantic white cedar swamp and caught a flash of what...

Yeah, maybe I'm wrong on both counts. Seriously. I always want an inflorescence for an ID, it's dangerous to wing it without one.

That may not be phragmites Guy. It may be a grass named Saccharum giganteum (sugarcane plumegrass). Did you see the normal Phragmite seed heads?

I'm sorry, I was speaking of Penn State Forest by Oswego Lake.

Very interesting Guy. Recall I did find a broken CCC plate in the cedar swamp. I've nosed about in that area and saw places where things went on. Damnable place though with the briar.

When I did the Lakehurst survey, I found about a dozen growing along a linear-shaped pond. Most were about 7 feet or so, but one was larger. I showed David, he thinks they were likely planted for some reason. I agree, because they were kind of lined up close to the shore.

Okay, got it. Thanks.

There are some goodies, apparently, on the marsh edge. I'm pretty sure this is a white fringed orchid, but we'll see (if the deer don't eat it).

Yes, I've seen them. Hundreds of them in fact. Woodcock Preserve is loaded with them along the salt marsh and in the maritime forest. They don't have great roots there. I saw 3 that fell over because of the rains.

Hey Ron, did you think of getting someone to change the plaque? Seems fitting to do it. I didn't think so when you first showed me, but now.....

I probably walked right by some. Spring is not a great time to ID trees. All the acorns are decrepit or have been eaten over the winter.

Post #11 is Blue Beech, or Ironwood. Also called muscle tree. Carpinus caroliniana, or American Hornbeam. The wood is very tough, and used for levers, tool handles, walking sticks, etc.

Oaks are like Rubus (Bramble) to me. The hybridization is out of control. Very hard to make an ID when genes are mixed up.

Oh, Shumard Oak. I know you told me about this, but I had forgotten.

My guess is Pin Oak, Q. palustris.

I just realized Boyd, that if I simply look a the browser adress, it portrays them to 6 digits. Duh.

The one in the upper left corner is copyright 1958. Tree Finder is 1963 revised 1998. The Audubon tree guide (brown cover) is 1980. The last 2 are this century.

These are my current tree guide books in addition to the technical guide that I use for graminoids, sedges, and forbs which is not that helpful for trees.