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I recall, when I was looking for a kayak 5 years ago, that I did look into Hornbeck. But what about the seat, being so low. Was it difficult for a senior to get in and out?

By the way, if you are on facebook there's a very nice group titled "west Jersey history". You could post your question there.

They also had, in some years, an open day in Lakewood for all vendors to bring their craft to let people try them out. You could also try a craft out at that place in Brick that also closed.

Yes, that use of a kayak paddle is growing in popularity now for solo canoes. I wonder how the Kevlar will handle our piney rivers though, with the thud-thud-thud you get here from hitting submerged trees and branches.

Looks pretty stable.

Yeah, that's too narrow and long for me. I want to get into some tight spots looking for plants. By the way, this canoe intrigues me, I've never seen anything like it. You? Probably hard to keep the darn thing straight. http://www.goldenhawkcanoes.com/10__Traditional.html

How long is it? Is it light?

Now here is a canoe built to last. Watch what they do to it. It's a crying shame.

What do you think the problem was Guy, too narrow?

I had a coleman about 8 years ago. Guy and I went from Lake Oswego all the way up to the dam at Sim Place. I think we dragged that sucker over like 150 trees that day. Built to last! And that is a great price too.

There's a style of paddling called "Canadian style". I see it, but don't think I'd like it. At all. It even looks uncomfortable. It's a solo style.

Now here's a real interesting one. Look at the weight; 29 lbs for 15 foot canoe. https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/boa/d/cheltenham-bell-merlin-ii/7103929904.html

Hmmm, just saw this in Craigslist: I never talk to someone on Craigslit without using their email service. Whenever I sell, I get lowballers and scammers, but they are fairly easy to weed out. I sold the kayak on Craigslist.

Well, I sold my Wilderness Systems kayak. I just cannot get used to a kayak. It may have a lot to do with my age; it is hard as hell to get up out of them when you land for any reason. And when I float our rivers and lakes, I get out of the ship a lot. Here is what I sold. It was very nice, but...

Fair enough. What else do you propose should be allowed in there in terms of non-human powered locomotion?

I was replying to Jon, Hank. And as I said, it was just an observation.

I lived in Germany for awhile. Sometimes you'd see little statues of Mary or some such. They'd place her in a spot with a stone backdrop. Maybe a relic from a pious person who wanted that sort of thing in front of their property. Just a wild guess.

We have a dichotomy here. You say (of one sighting) you KNOW it was not of this earth, but you are still skeptical (doubt).

Hank, you are saying that unidentified flying objects exist, and you have personally seen them, but you are unsure if they are extraterrestrial (not originating from Earth). Do I have that right?

Well...I've been on aircraft carriers a couple times during flight operations, and was on a Navy Base for 38 years. Many of the officers over me were former pilots. They are not supreme beings. Intelligent yes, I"ll give them that, but they are human. I was on the 3rd deck of the Eisenhower, and...