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Mark, where did you learn the requirement that a fen must have 16" of peat? When a true fen by that standard had just 8" of peat while it was forming 10,000 years ago, was it not still a fen? By the way, I have Collins and Anderson on my shelf too. What page are you referring too?

Sorry, I should not have mixed that message in that post. That is for Al (Manumuskin). It was shot down his way.

Second photo down in post 12 shows trees at the edge of a spung. They are Nyssa sylvatica, Black Gum. I have never seen them so vibrant as this. This shows what they can be if given the right conditions for growth in our area. I'll have to go back in the fall to get the color...

Which one looks newer, the one in the photo? I think there are more there. Al, I'm teasing your eyes with the 3rd photo in post 11. I used watercolor, but do you recognize where that was taken? You should.

Mark, I disagree with you. Many authors believe what we have are poor fens rather than bogs, but I'm too lazy to dig out the sources.

250,000 tufts of Torrey's Muhly

Humidity was intense, but bugs were non-existent.

Yesterday was the hottest day I've ever spent in the pines in all my life. I've been doing a lot of exploring in Greenwood Forest during the day time, and I love it, the way the sun shines on the sand and vegetation. Driving my truck and rolling out the door to a spot no more than 400 yards...

Our wet, sphagnous areas are mostly fens as well, but I can't get used to the word. People would look at me funny. The word bog is so ingrained in our south jersey vernacular that fen just won't stick.

http://patch.com/new-jersey/lacey/medford-man-facing-numerous-charges-after-striking-ocean-county-sheriffs-officer

I cannot believe this is happening. Are we stuck in the 197o's...

You sir, are correct.

Where is this?

This is the 1995 aerial shot. I don't see it. Maybe hidden by the landscape?

I think you are right. Didn't they dig a huge hole to get fill for the bridge work or something, then provided a fishing dock for the public?

Good reason to skip it!

An intense workout, really. Guy, Jeff, and I went upstream from Lake Oswego to Sim Place. All told, up and back, we had 120 obstacles to either duck under or pull the vessel over. Super tiring. That was 7 years ago, and I'd not do it again. Too risky on my joints at my age.

Why did you do that, the challenge? You likely knew you were in for a very rough run.

Pinesbucks: Edwin Forsythe?

Yes, unfortunately that gate was closed maybe 20 (?) years ago. I used to remember it being open while being able to lug the canoe to the dam for the trip down the Oswego. I would love to see the state negotiate with the landowner (Haine's?) to open it so we can go downs Martha road from Lake...