6 years later

[LongIslandPiney]

Well tomorrow is Sept.11, I can't say the pain gets any better with time. It's still a tough day to get through. I still can't believe the towers collapsed and all those innocent people died.
Last year I was hiking in the piney woods over in Rocky Point, and stopped at the times the towers collapsed. It is quiet in the pines, but you can always hear a bird chirping. But it was dead quiet, eerie, almost as if even the birds knew what happened that day.
Also I will never forget the smell, it drifted over Long Island when the wind shifted a couple of days after 9/11.
I used to visit the WTC alot, and there were so many amazing people there. I didn't know them personally, but their loss still hurts.

 

[this_is_nascar]

.... and yet the bastard (sorry) that was responsible is still walking, talking, breathing and living. We can put a man on the moon, but can't find this bum?

 

[Furball1]

Thank Clinton

You can thank Clinton for that, he had his opportunity to get him from the Saudi's, but had to check with his lawyers first, and then decided the USA had no legal claim on his terroristic ass. You can bet UBL is sweating in some cave(s) constantly now. If you know anything about the land features in Pakistan/Afghanistan, you would know it is is unbelievably complex and dotted with millions of caves. Plus thousands of Taliban minions surrounding him. Going to the moon would actually be a lot easier.

 

[MarkBNJ]

It's a mistake, imo, to fixate on Bin Laden. Bush did when it was convenient, and that was a mistake too. He allowed the world to think the response was a police action at the same time that he was preparing strategic change-the-landscape options. He should have been making that case all along.

 

[Ben Ruset]

 

[Sue Gremlin]

You can thank Clinton for that, he had his opportunity to get him from the Saudi's, but had to check with his lawyers first, and then decided the USA had no legal claim on his terroristic ass. You can bet UBL is sweating in some cave(s) constantly now. If you know anything about the land features in Pakistan/Afghanistan, you would know it is is unbelievably complex and dotted with millions of caves. Plus thousands of Taliban minions surrounding him. Going to the moon would actually be a lot easier.

FIrst of all, the guy is not living in a cave. That's what we're fed because it makes us feel better. He's living the high life.

Second, your comment about Clinton....well, I guess I'll pass on this, political discussions are too messy, and I believe I am far outnumbered here on this forum. I won't get into it other than to say this is not Clinton's fault.

 

[Badfish740]

FIrst of all, the guy is not living in a cave. That's what we're fed because it makes us feel better. He's living the high life.

Ditto-Osama doesn't seem to have much reason to sweat as far as I'm concerned. Our military is breaking its back attempting to control a civil war being fought four ways when you really look at it. You have Sunnis, Shias, and Kurds all fighting each other, and all three fighting us! With 90% of our resources in Iraq from manpower to arms and equipment, how much pressure could Osama really be under?

Second, your comment about Clinton....well, I guess I'll pass on this, political discussions are too messy, and I believe I am far outnumbered here on this forum. I won't get into it other than to say this is not Clinton's fault.

Does it really matter now whose fault it was? I don't care if it IS Clinton's fault that we didn't get Osama, and I don't care that it's Bush's fault that we're in Iraq-I just want solutions, which no one seems to have.

 

[Tom]

Ron Paul

 

[Sue Gremlin]

Does it really matter now whose fault it was? I don't care if it IS Clinton's fault that we didn't get Osama, and I don't care that it's Bush's fault that we're in Iraq-I just want solutions, which no one seems to have.

You're absolutely right. Pointing the Icy Finger of Blame at anyone isn't going to accomplish anything.

 

[pinelandpaddler]

Ron Paul

He has his pros and cons, but his stance on our involvement in that region seems like it should be common sense.

 

[Tom]

He has his pros and cons, but his stance on our involvement in that region seems like it should be common sense.

With the line up of characters we have to choose from in '08, he strikes me as the only Pro.

 

[Sue Gremlin]

Not my kind of candidate.