I thought after the school was strafed in 04 that it would be closed,imagine,no more deadly force signs,gates,i recall a 6' high barrier blocking the road coming from stage road,access,access,reopening alot of areas to reexplore.The government owes the state imo a huge sum of money,they still have not paid up for the bear swamp hill tower.warren grove should be closed, shooting up a school, setting the pine barrens on fire. enough is enough
there is not enough room in nj for that type of military activity
what is it going to take to shut it down, a school bus full of student to be "mistakenly bombed"
Well, I hope I'm not opening up a can of worms as Bob alluded to, but basically fire is important for a few reasons. Controlled burns are usually conducted to burn off detritus on the forest floor periodically. The rationale behind this is to have a few small fires instead of one big one. The small fires will get rid of the tinderbox that builds up over time, making for a low temperature fire that will open serotinous pine cones, allowing them to germinate, return nutrients to the soil, etc... Trees usually recover easily from these types of fires as only the outer bark burns. It's not uncommon to see a tree with a trunk that's blackened up to about 3 or 4 feet from the ground with healthy green needles above the fire line. However, when the junk on the forest floor is allowed to accumulate over long periods of time there can be very hot and destructive (pine cones and trees are totally destroyed) fires which do not help. As far as animals, they seem to have a sixth sense about these things, so depending on how fast the fire is moving, etc...I think they usually clear out.I am unfamiliar with the effects of fire in the PB. I do know that it is necessary to some degree to sustain the environment. What impact does it have on the wildlife? Do most animal sense the danger and move out of the area?
I heard that on the radio. Then when GermanG made the following post it seemed to ring a bell...I'm assuming that they're referring to the "Jersey Guys" who I like to think have a special place in hell reserved for them.
The quote you posted above is just a summary. As I recall, they said the ATV riders were confronted by a group of soldiers with some kind of instruments who asked them what they were doing there. When the riders asked the soldiers the same thing they said they were studying endangered snakes.Walt, along with several graduate students, has been managing and mapping threatened and endangered plant habitat there. They've also been radio monitoring T&E snakes on the base.
This sums it up nicely. Just wanted to add that the seeds in the pine cones of some pitch pines don't open until confronted with severe heat (like an intense fire) the pines have historically been subject to wild fires in geological history. The trees where this fire occurred (the plains) are theorized to be the result of severe wild fires over long periods of time.Fire isn't necessary to sustain the environment, just to sustain the pine forests. Without it, natural forest succession would lead to a stand of mostly oak in our area. If the fire is hot enough to kill the largest pines as well as any oak saplings in the understory, the forest floor will be opened up to all sorts of other species that need an open environment, many of which are rare species. The pines will come back down the road.
As for animals, in nature habitat and populations are important, not individuals. Some individuals will be killed from a fast moving fire, but the habitat for many species will be greatly improved for years after the fire. A few that need mature forest will decline due to it. The biggest result from a fire is change, not destruction. Precsribed burns don't result in most of these effects. They just reduces fuel and makes wildfires harder to start and easier to stop. Also, human life and property must be taken into account when dealing with fires, not just ecological considerations.
Take these basic principles and toss in the question of whether the fire was natural or man caused. The plants and animals affected don't really care, but it adds one more point to debate when setting management goals. In the end, there will be people complaining no matter what is done.
Turn the range into a preserve if it is closed,no need for a development.I'm tempted to agree, onehand. 30,000 acres of burnt pinelands in 5 years is enough. Some real idiocy, if I must say so myself. But to be honest, if they close down the range only to develop it, I would be infinitely more upset about that than about these idiotic mishaps.
Kind of you to say that Chris. I love the pine barrens, and the plains are a very special place for me. They are clean and fresh, and remind me of a pristine desert in some ways. The other boys said it well. They need good hot fires to remain the way they are. If you don't have periodic hot burns the oaks will take over eventually. The forest service has a policy to immediately put every wildfire out, regardless of the local conditions that day. I disagree with that philosophy. That trailer park is in a bad place. If it must remain there, give it a big buffer and let the pines be as they are and stop fires only in order to save lives and property.I consider you a knowledgable person Bob, I'd like to hear your views.