Schizaea and clubmoss is mosty found in damp areas also containing Sphagnum, so I'm not so sure going to bare sand is a good start for them.Sort of related, but does anyone know what successional processes would create areas of bare sand for Schizaea and clubmoss gametophytes to establish? Fire in a dry year? I can see how limited flooding would be marginally helpful in retarding white-cedar growth, but if anything, it would lead to deposit of more organic matter, which doesn't seem helpful.
Curly grass is way more numerous than people think it is. The ones at Webb's Mill (at least the ones near the boardwalk) were small in comparison to others in the pines.My general experience is that fern and lycophyte gametophytes need at least a tiny patch of bare ground for the spore to germinate. I thought I remembered reading that you could once see gametophytes of S. pusilla in the open at Webbs Mill when the population was in better shape, but I can't find it right now. (It's probably a side note from one of Ted Gordon's trip reports in Bartonia, or maybe in the Swatzell & Kiss gametophyte literature.)
You speak like you have a background in the wild plant world. Would you care to expound on your background?The biggest population I've seen is also at a very accessible site, and on comparatively open dry ground (although I'm sure it gets wetter when the adjacent water level goes up). I looked through some photos I took on one of the savannas last year and some of them were on ground, albeit not bare ground (sand mixed with muck and sprinkled with downed needles), but some do appear to be coming straight out of the peat. I saw quite a few individuals sprinkled through the savanna once I had my search image and microhabitat dialed in, but never in large masses.
I don't have a place to grow it myself, but I know some one at a conservation organization who would like to try taking it all the way from spore to sporophyte some day. (The literature on spore->gametophyte, the fungal partner, etc., is pretty good, but I don't know if anyone has gotten it to sporophyte.) And I know someone in Ecuador who might have access to Andean material, which I am still not convinced is conspecific...
Thank you for opening up. I've not been on a trip in 5 years or so. I used to consider leading trips into the pines, but I always discarded the idea thinking that people on the other side of the river have either seen it all, or would not care to be thrust that deep into the swamps and watersheds where I go. And now, with our changing climate, it can be pure hell out there, like it was yesterday on the Three-foot Branch in the plains. In fact, notice how the trips in the pines have dropped off to zero? It can't be fully explained by climate and same-o, same-o. There is likely some young members who would welcome it.Longtime PBC member (I've met and/or been in the field with you, Russ, oji, Ted, Mark, Terry etc. at various times). My day job is in science and teaching generally, not botany, but I am often out in the field, and I do a certain amount of volunteer restoration work in my own country west of the Delaware. I have a particular interest in successional communities (my life seems to be bounded by pitch pine and scrub oak, some days) and I'm a semi-professional fern taxonomist.
(And PBC could use some more Pines trips on the docket, if you or any of the usual crew would care to lead one...)
That's very interesting. I collect plants, and have most of the PL ferns in my collection. But I'm purely a generalist (but do favor grasses and sedges), and when I do encounter a fern I don't know, I pray the sori are intact and mature. That's rarely the case!I'm a semi-professional fern taxonomist.
When we have a very hot burn, or a bulldozed piece of ground, Mark and I often visit the location at least 2 years in a row, to see what comes up. It's fascinating to see things pop up unexpectedly, like; "what's that doing here"? And with the new carbon load in the ground, things grow to sizes we are unused to encountering. Mark is a premier PL botanist, he and I work in the field together often. We did a complete survey of the Lakehurst Navy base in 2021 and 2022. We had to collect two vouchers of each vascular species. He, I, and Dave Snyder came up with 777 different species.I have a particular interest in successional communities (my life seems to be bounded by pitch pine and scrub oak, some days) and I'm a semi-professional fern taxonomist.
I assume it's a combination of the loss of Ted's activity and the general disruption of COVID, which in my experience has knocked a lot of volunteer groups all galley-west just by throwing routines off the tracks. I was sort of expecting Mark and the other usual suspects to have put up a few trips; I was looking forward to standing in some sandy waste with him waving a graminoid in my face, saying "Do ya know what this is?"Thank you for opening up. I've not been on a trip in 5 years or so. I used to consider leading trips into the pines, but I always discarded the idea thinking that people on the other side of the river have either seen it all, or would not care to be thrust that deep into the swamps and watersheds where I go. And now, with our changing climate, it can be pure hell out there, like it was yesterday on the Three-foot Branch in the plains. In fact, notice how the trips in the pines have dropped off to zero? It can't be fully explained by climate and same-o, same-o. There is likely some young members who would welcome it.
I've been on several of Gerry's trips. Sometimes he and I discuss abscence of, or new inclusions to, the Flora of Southern NJ via email. It tickles me how he sometimes leads in his sneakers and regular plants. He is a wealth of knowledge for sure, and his recent authorship of an overview of the Torrey Botanical Socienty's contribution to field work with a discussion on it's founding and founding members is a great read and well researched.I assume it's a combination of the loss of Ted's activity and the general disruption of COVID, which in my experience has knocked a lot of volunteer groups all galley-west just by throwing routines off the tracks. I was sort of expecting Mark and the other usual suspects to have put up a few trips; I was looking forward to standing in some sandy waste with him waving a graminoid in my face, saying "Do ya know what this is?"
PBC does seem to have a reasonably steady flux of new members, often horticulture and botany students, who probably haven't seen much of the Pines, so I think there would be interest. Certainly when I started with the club, adventures in the Pines were very memorable and probably helped make me a regular. One that stands out rather distinctly was Gerry Moore and Uli Lorimer taking us to Sherman Avenue Bog in Vineland...the day after a hard rain. It was well attended, too! Imagine 20 or so botanists wandering around in a cedar swamp in water gradually increasing to about thigh-deep. I remember standing on a fallen cedar moving items out of my lower pockets into upper compartments when it became clear just how wet I was going to get. Somehow we got separated into two groups in the swamp, and I swear Gerry had watermarks around his shoulders when we reunited, but maybe that was my imagination. Only disappointment was that we couldn't see the anticipated Schizaea without a snorkel. Did get some Massachusetts fern though, which is always nice.
You do have to warn people about adventurous conditions in the description, though, and to take enough water. I also remember the despairing feeling on another trip of running through my 2L of water just as Russ launched into a patient, methodical attack on a particularly obnoxious Gleason & Cronquist couplet differentiating the stellate hairs in Quercus (#22, for the bloody-minded). I think my brain shriveled by the time that was done. I carry a 3L water bladder now.
Sori I think are a bit over-emphasized as a character. In my experience, when I was learning ferns, the hardest ones to get a grip on were the very "ferny", lacy ones, which all seemed to blend together to me. Fortunately, we have a relatively sparse fern flora here in the northeast compared to the tropics, and in my experience, each species has about 3 or 4 characters which are unique in combination. (e.g., lady fern is fairly lacy, but it doesn't form rhizomatous patches, isn't notably hairy, and doesn't have little spines on its marginal teeth, which separates it from hay-scented and wood ferns.)That's very interesting. I collect plants, and have most of the PL ferns in my collection. But I'm purely a generalist (but do favor grasses and sedges), and when I do encounter a fern I don't know, I pray the sori are intact and mature. That's rarely the case!
I ask myself: "what the hell are they doing"? (the beaver)Was in northern Vermont and visited a waterfall that has tremendous destruction from beaver activity. Here are some pics and a link to some fliers that were there at the kiosk. Apparently beaver deceivers is a business in Vermont https://beaverdeceivers.com/