Calling the snake dudes

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whitingrider

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Hello everyone. My name is Tom, I'm a lifelong piney from Whiting. "They" are building a new road from Cherry St. behind the old Stop & Shop to Station Rd. in Whiting. I was out tonight surveying the devastation when I saw a snake had been flattened on Cherry St. I am going to take a digital photo but I'm not sure how to upload.
If any herpers are in this vicinity take a look as maybe this project could get stalled.
Railroadrers, I'm pretty sure this road is going to obliterate any remnants of the old turntable from existence.
Anyway, Thanks. Tom
 
dragoncjo

dragoncjo

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Please get a picture up. But most of all report the sighting to ensp of nj. It very well could stop contruction. However I'm just guessing that it is going to be a black rat or garter given the time of year. As soon as you get a picture I may be able to get you a phone number, or name of someone from the state to contact.
 
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whitingrider said:
Railroadrers, I'm pretty sure this road is going to obliterate any remnants of the old turntable from existence.
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Tom,

Glad you posted this. It is troublesome that the turntable will be gone soon. Even though there is only half of it, that portion is quite impressive. I will have to travel there soon and check it out again.


Welcome to the site.

Guy
 
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whitingrider

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It was small and appeared silver. My neighbor who has lived in whiting for over 70 years said it was an adler? I'm sure it's not a pine or corn snake however.
Curiously, this snakes remains were vanished the very next morning.
 
dragoncjo

dragoncjo

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Alot of times older guys will refer to snakes as three things, adders, water moccasin, or rattlers. Adders I think are what alot of people use to call milk snakes. I will post some links to some possible snakes. However it very well could be a young black rat snake. They seem to for whatever reason be a common find dead on roads this time of year.....I've seen at least three, and a friend of mine has seen 6 just in august in the medford area. Baby black ratsnakes to a untrained eye can resemble milk snakes(or adders). I just hope it wasn't a baby pine or corn. Also I've found for whatever reason snakes on roads disappear, some people do report dead snakes to the state(such as myself)......maybe someone took it to fish and game for ID, or to the ENSP.
Young black ratsnake(not the best picture)
http://www.hiltonpond.org/images/RatsnakeBlackJuv01.jpg
Eastern Milk(adder)
http://www.fieldherpforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13094
Eastern Hognose, ninth post down on the money
http://www.fieldherpforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12694
Baby pine snake 7th down on post
http://www.fieldherpforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11034
My guess is it is the first picture, let me know if it is none of the above
Here are snakes of New Jersey, go to the bottom to see pictures(not great ones)
http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/ensp/pdf/snakes.pdf
 
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