I could go "turkey hunting" from my porch with a brick. They are all over the place down here. 
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I'll be right there with some bricks !I could go "turkey hunting" from my porch with a brick. They are all over the place down here.
Well they are going to stage the refund requests allowing requests to be made for A and B weeks first. A week starts April 20, B week on April 27.
I wouldn't be able to request a refund until D week got closer. I wouldn't ask for the refund anyway. I would rather see the money stay with the Division.
Does the 'closure' apply to the owner of Paradise Lakes? Maybe he is exempt since he has the keys to the gate that currently blocks West Mill Road.
I could go "turkey hunting" from my porch with a brick. They are all over the place down here.
They're quicker than you think, I doubt you'd hit one. Better luck with your car. Ask me how I lost a windshield on Buckshutem road years ago!
That goes contrary to the permit system design. The number of permits alloted for each zone is different and is based on local bird population. Similar to deer permitting but with different zones sizes and boundaries.
Thanks. How often do they measure the population? Does less hunting pressure now make it likely there will be more permits issued later?
Good question. But I don’t know the answer.
When I was in college in 1979 the turkey Program was in its infancy. I had a class in wildlife management at Rutgers and Bob Erickson from Fish and Wildlife gave a presentation on the program. It was very interesting and he demonstrated a rocket net for us showing how they captured the birds from other states and brought them to New Jersey. The first hunting season for turkey was in 1981 Which was the year I graduated. I started seeing birds locally around 82 or 83 in my area. Since then the program has been a very big success.
That class in wildlife management was the best class I ever had in college. Teaching duties were shared by three professors all of them were big-time hunters. We went to each of their homes for wild game barbecues during the semester. And the drinking age was not 21 back then so we were all allowed to bring beer. Life was indeed good !
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You were fortunate to get Bob Erickson as a teacher. I only met him briefly at various events. One of the conservation officers back then was Walt Pettigrew; I was friends with Laurie Pettigrew and through her, Walt. One of the generation in which most game wardens were hunters; Walt told me that the newer generation of officers were more likely to have had criminal justice education than biology training.
I was present sometime before 1981 when turkeys from other states were released to repopulate here. In an area near Vineland along Landis Ave, state biologists opened a dozen boxes one by one, each containing a turkey from NY. These birds had been confined for hours, transportd in a truck. We were in an open field, about 100 feet from the woods.
Each bird, when the box was opened, walked out, shook its wings, and launched. Took seconds to get airborne, and then leveled out about 20 feet above ground heading into the trees at impressive speed.
The beginning of my respect for the species. Ben Franklin was right; we should have chosen the wild turkey as our national bird.
I knew Laurie. She was instrumental in helping Manumuskin and myself in our endeavor's years ago. Jessica, Al and I spent hours on many days in the upstairs rooms of the building she worked at. Had lunch in the gazebo out back one day with her.
Hmmmm. That would have been Applegate, Wolgast.....and the third? Darn that worsening memory.
I met Laurie (as 46er said " a long, long, long time ago"!) when she ran the Avian Rehab center in Marmora. A shoestring operation, but we had some effect and I learned a lot.
What were your "endeavors"?
My endeavors were maps. The man she worked with collected all the maps the state was going to trash. He stored them upstairs in two rooms that were packed with them. They were stacked on the floor, in tubes, in boxes and some actually filed in a map drawer. The first time Jessica and I visited we just took photos and left. But when we came again with Al she asked me to sort them by county. Since I knew little about the counties where Al lives he was able to do a great job doing that. Many of the maps were duplicates so I was able to get one of each duplicate which I still have here. I prefer digital because the maps take up too much room, but some I just had to have.
This blurry photo shows the blue carpet on the floor and some of the maps laying there. This was about 15 years ago.
All I can say is when many others said no Laurie said yes. I have plenty of respect for her letting me spent so much time there photographing them.
Roger Locandro. I regretted not taking his class "Interesting and Edible Plants"Hmmmm. That would have been Applegate, Wolgast.....and the third? Darn that worsening memory.
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Laurie Pettigrew was a state biologist, probably retired a few years ago. She regularly ran the deer check station in Cedarville. Would that all state wildlife staff were as good as her and Walt. Great people, good friends.
Roger, of course. I don't think he chipped in during my wildlife class. Perhaps it was a year or so later. I did take both his edible plants and meats classes though. Most useful two credits of my time there
. He helped get my air gun back from the University Police Chief after a slight misunderstanding 
. 25 years later he was helping me break into a county parks van I'd locked the keys in during the Barnegat Bay Festival at Island Heights. Nice to have your back covered by friends!
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