Dog Poisoning

manumuskin

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Whip,Myself,my wife and Bills Lab and mine (brother and sister) took a ride to the barrens last night.We were at Loucks Bridge standing next to the Mullica just upstream at about 830 last night and it was just getting dark enough that things were getting hard to see.We noticed a large mushroom at our feet,I did not examine it closely but it looked like a large upturned Death Cap (Amanita) The dogs were running around hysterical,playing fetch with my wife into the Mullica and then fighting each other over the stick,all in fun of course.Then they came back up out of the water and suddenly Sparky (Bills male) ran by me and quick as lightning bent down and scarfed the whole mushroom.One second it was there the next it was gone.I know Amanita can kill a man no sweat but turtles,squirrels and deer eat it with impunity.We started discussing what it could do to a dog.I had no idea.Today we have been reading on the net the stuff can kill a dog quicker then a man.Then I bring the shroom up on google images because my wife said she got a real good look at the shroom.She claims it was Amanita.Bill says the dog is sleeping now as i write this.Has anyone had any experience with Amanita eating dogs?I have never seen a dog do that crap.He apparently has a full 24 hours to exhibit symptoms.The net says he should have been made to throw up but I think it's too late for that now.
 

manumuskin

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That is what Bill has just done.They told him to watch the dog and if he starts acting odd to bring him right in.It has been 18 hours and all is well.I think he is about out of the woods.Dumb dog.
 

ecampbell

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My dog ate one of those pads meant to adsorbe moisture under a package of hamburger. My vet said to give her a teaspoon of hydrogen peroxide, wait 2 minutes and repeat if the first dose didn't work. I worked like a charm.
 

whippoorbill

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My dog ate one of those pads meant to adsorbe moisture under a package of hamburger. My vet said to give her a teaspoon of hydrogen peroxide, wait 2 minutes and repeat if the first dose didn't work. I worked like a charm.

A bottle of hydrogen peroxide and a spoon will be with me on future outdoor excursions with my dogs. Reading into this from a hundred different sources the past 48 hours, I learned that dogs are often poisoned by amanitas, especially young and curious dogs like Sparky. Amanitas are tasty and give off an appealing odor. They're also deadly.

I'm glad Spark decided to eat a species of 'shroom other than what we thought.

Thanks for the concerns, guys, and thanks for recommending the animal hospital, 46er. I had called my own vet but, since it was a Sunday, I wound up being connected with the Linwood animal hospital office. Their triage nurse helped us out.
 

46er

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I'm glad Spark decided to eat a species of 'shroom other than what we thought.

Thanks for the concerns, guys, and thanks for recommending the animal hospital, 46er. I had called my own vet but, since it was a Sunday, I wound up being connected with the Linwood animal hospital office. Their triage nurse helped us out.

Good to here Spark is still sparking. That vet group is one of the best we have used. The specialist we took our Cody to was very helpful in our making decisions for Cody's latest battle.
 

manumuskin

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A couple days ago me and Whip took the Labs on a walk along the lower Mullica and Sleeper and we quite early learnt that Sparky really does have a thing for Amanitas.He tried to eat every one Bill allowed him near.He had to leash him and fight him the whole walk.Neither dog is leashed trained,these dogs are meant to run free.Sophie would see Sparky lunge at a shroom and as Bill would yank him back from certain death Sophie would go over,sniff it and walk away.Bill did allow Sparky to closely investigate a Bolete that I confirmed was not a liver destroying shroom from Hell and all he did was lick the Bolete but he will swallow Amanita (Death Cap or Destroying Angel).Has anyone else had a problem with their dogs and suicidal (stupidcidal) tendencies? That is half a year that Bill will either have to fight the dog or muzzle him or get a shock collar and fry his ass into submission. These shrooms seem to be everywhere that isn't underwater,more common on higher ground though.
 

ecampbell

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Last Sept 11th after a long day of hiking my dog, Bella the Great Dane, started reacting strangely. When I put my hand in front of her face with a treat she would not take it and had a startled response and blinking eyes. When she stood she was wobbly. We took her outside to further evaluate her and she started running in big circles, really fast all the while completely stable, and we had trouble stopping her. Boy was she tripping! This was of course 4 PM on a Sunday. No time to loose, off to U of P. They ran a tox screen and it was negative but they canot check everything. They fed her activated characoal to clean out anything bad and she stayed the night. She was improving before we left her there that night. The next morning she was fine and we took her home after a $600 donation. We did not see her eat a mushroom but that is what we think.
There are mushrooms of all types everywhere now, the pines and my back yard. I think you want to know why we haven't had any problems since. We did nothing. She free ranges in the pines every day and on our 4 acres and has plenty of opportunity. I think the shock collar would work. You could teach her buy giving her a jolt every time she shows an interest in any shroom. She will quickly make the association and the best part is she won't associate the lesson with you. You won't be hollering at her or winging your shoe at her. Give it a try, we have used a shock collar for other reasons, running deer, and it quickly broke that train of thought.
 
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