Dragonflies are fun

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  1. Jon Holcombe

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    While scouting locations for landscape shots, I ended up spending 4 hours shooting dragonflies. Naming them is more fun than photographing them. Maybe when I slow down I will find the real names.
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    Stealth Marsh Harrier
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    Orange Fly Tiger
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    Turquoise Bog Hawk
     
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    One of the hard things in life for me to do. I wish you could say to them: "Stay!", like you would a dog.
     
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    Jon, that is a new side of you that you just revealed. Your landscapes are great, but this... I mean... wow PM me and tell me how in the hell u did that
     
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    There is not a secret recipe TC. Many species of dragonflies and damselflies have a tendency to circle around and come back to the same perch. I found that if I just hung out they would come back and pose for me. I shot around 10 AM to 2 PM in bright sun. They of course like marshes and bogs, and fields. The gear makes a difference. One guy I watched on Google uses a 300m f/4 lens, and a 100mm MACRO f/2.8 lens, which happens to be my setup. The macro is for closeup (3 ft and closer), smaller critters like the damselfly. The 300mm is for bigger dragonflies, and farther away, like 6 ft. or more. 2nd hand lenses can be had online for a lot less than new.

    My macro was about $350: Tokina ATXAFM100PRON 100mm f/2.8 Pro D Macro Autofocus Lens for Nikon AF-D, Black

    I use a 300mm Nikon lens that is pretty expensive but features a lightweight fresnel lens which makes it easy to handhold: Nikon AF-S FX NIKKOR 300MM f/4E PF ED Vibration Reduction Lens with Auto Focus for Nikon DSLR Cameras

    Focusing is hard and requires a combination of autofocus and manual focus, make easier by the fact that you can wait for the critter to circle around and come back to you, and you will already be focused on his perch. I used f/4 to f/6 aperture, to get that out of focus look. Using a smaller f-stop is probably safer to ensure depth of field (getting mostly everything in focus from the wings to the tail). One guy says he shoots at f/11 for depth of field, but you can go higher.

    The post processing was time consuming, as I took a LOT of shots, most were out of focus or bad composed. A lot of what you get is just luck.

    I am sure that 46er could give you a lot of tips, since he is a much more experienced wildlife photographer than I am.

    ALSO: Shutter speed should be a least 1/500 second or more, probably more like 1/1000 of a second or more. According to Google guys, some people shoot dragonflies with a point and shoot, as long as their lens has a macro function, so you do not necessarily need expensive gear.MACRO means 1/1 ratio, don't ask me to explain because I hardly understand it myself.
     
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    Very good info Jon. Thank you VM. I obviously knew shutter speed had to be fast but I was interested in f stop and how you got them to say cheese. . Again...tip o me hat. See, you can learn just about anything from you good folks here at this site if you hang around long enough.:)
     
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    so detailed they almost look fake
     
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    I"d say the first one is a Blue Dasher
    Second one Eastern Amberwing?
    THird another blue dasher?
     
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    Pretty sure this guy is a Halloween pennant. Fun watching them skimming over water.
     
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    View attachment 12044
     
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    From my experience being wrong with dragonfly and damsel ID's, I have found that wing patterns are much better than colors and habitat to confirm what insect you have seen.

    This would be a good start-
    https://www.pbase.com/rcm1840/wingpatterns
     
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  13. Jon Holcombe

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    A woman who photographs them told me Slaty skimmer, Needham’s skimmer, Blue dasher. That's why I decided not to ID them. It's a lot more fun going into the woods and photographing them. I just looked at Gibby's chart and the first one could also be an Eastern Pondhawk.
     
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    I find that chart a bit more user friendly than Al's, since you don't have to choose a species to begin with. I need the "Idiots Guide To Dragonfly and Damselfly Identification".