Exploring the lower Sleeper

woodjin

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Nov 8, 2004
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Near Mt. Misery
Sunday I got into the woods to do some exploring around the lower sleeper, upstream from it's confluence with the Mullica. Most of this area is hidden from aerial photography due to a heavy cedar canopy.

About 500ft from the nearest road I found this long abandoned hunting "shack".

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As I went in further, signs of humans quickly diminished and eventually disappeared altogehter. Here is one of the pristine sand islands that dot the area.

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The sleeper

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I worked my way upstream.

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Now, this is interesting: I came across a causeway. I was a bit surprised as I was entirely unaware that any would be in the area.

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Where it crossed the sleeper from the west:

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and on the east side:

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Yep, that is old cut timber under the water!!

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As I thought about it, it kind of made sense that with all the lumbering going on in the early to mid 1900's in the great swamp, that they would have built bridges over the sleeper. However, later I looked at the 1930 aerial, when the sleeper (and mullica) were dammed up to form a lake. Wouldn't you know it...the spot of this causeway was actually at the top of the northern most tip of the lake. I suppose it was a bridge/water regulation device for the water comming into the lake. A pretty significant find!!

The sleeper at this point is a criss cross of tributaries (large and small) seeping into it's banks. The river is surrounded by cedar, mostly, and some gum, with water seepiing from the uplands.

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this was the main spot I was aiming for.

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Nice huh?

Crawling out of the woods, I made my way back to my truck and heading on down to Y-Buc-Bills bridge.
Shorty after I was confronted by two hikers who insisted that I looked familar. Well, it didn't take long to figure out why...it was Piker56 and TomM from this forum!!! We hung out and talked for a bit. A couple of great guys!

There goes the state again, closing off roads for no good reason.

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Heading back home, I stopped to investigate a spung along the nesco creek I have been curious about for a while. I am glad I finally made it there for obvious reasons. It is only about a foot deep.


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Here is one of the biggest swamp maples I have ever seen. It fell completely across a very wide spot on the nesco. picture doesn't really show it's true size.

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Hope you enjoyed the report.

Jeff
 

manumuskin

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the sleeper is a real nice stream down near it's mullica confluence,just to jump in and walk up since the bottom is sand.That bog you show along the nesco was reported in a book to have PB treefrogs in it and thats where i first went looking for them.never heard one there but the first pb i ever did hear was with whip on the nesco between paradise lake and 206.nesco is also a nice walking stream but the only barrens river i ever seen loaded with poison ivy.the one time i canoed it's length try as i might i could not avoid all of it and ended up with a slight case.
Al
 

piker56

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Jan 13, 2006
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Qoute from Jeff...Shorty after I was confronted by two hikers who insisted that I looked familar. Well, it didn't take long to figure out why...it was Piker56 and TomM from this forum!!! We hung out and talked for a bit. A couple of great guys!

Who were the great guys? It couldn't have been me and Tom. :) Your right, sunday was a gorgeous day.

Brothers and freinds. 2 old guys enjoying the pines.
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Also, it was a pleasure meeting you.
 

piker56

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Jan 13, 2006
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Jeff, Tom and I saw that swamp maple (pretty sure it was the same one). We also saw some huge cedar trees. At on point we saw the remains of rotted pilings in the water, mostly below the surface. Always makes me dream of what it looked like back in the day. Next time I'll have my camera. BTW, did you catch anything?
Greg
 

bobpbx

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Oct 25, 2002
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I don't know Jeff. Are you sure you were not where we all went on that Desert explore when we found that old causeway and wood foundations? That was on Sleepy Creek I think.

Here is a bit of a post from Gabe on the subject:

"I am firmly convinced that the two streams were mixed up by a map maker at some point, hence the similar names. To make things more complicated, Farr's Waterways of Camden County has it that the Cooper Branch of the Mechescatauxin was once known as "Sleepy Branch." He says that the 1953 Atsion and 1966 Hammonton quads then applied this name to the entire Mechescatauxin. I surmise that the name "Sleepy Creek" morphed into "Sleeper Creek/Branch," but not before some map maker mistook what is now known as the "Sleepy Creek" for what is now called the "Sleeper Branch". Does that make sense?

Anyhow, I believe it was Charles Read who dammed the Sleepy in the latter half of the 18th Century. There he built a saw mill. That you guys apparently found the site and remains has got me excited, to put it mildly.

You say there is still a pond on the Creek?? I'll be dammed. Can you give me the coordinates? Also, what is this "desert" that Jeff referred to?"
 

glowordz

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Looks like a fun trip over interesting terrain. I didn't realize the Sleeper was so pretty. Love the sand island! Thanks for sharing your pics: they make the area come to life.

Glo
 

woodjin

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Nov 8, 2004
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Near Mt. Misery
I don't know Jeff. Are you sure you were not where we all went on that Desert explore when we found that old causeway and wood foundations? That was on Sleepy Creek I think.

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No, no, no, I was a very good distance from both sleepy creek and the sawmill. I was on the Sleeper between the confluence with the mullica and the beaver pond.

Jeff
 

piker56

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Greg, are these the old pilings at Y-Buc's bridge?

Not sure of the exact location of the pilings. I'm not really familiar with this area, it was my first time to wander back there. I had checked it on google before hand, but as Jeff said the canopy is so thick the areials didn't show much. The sand islands were beauties (Jeff had a picture of one). I definetely want to explore further, this time with my fishing rod!
Greg
 

woodjin

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Nov 8, 2004
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the sleeper is a real nice stream down near it's mullica confluence,just to jump in and walk up since the bottom is sand.That bog you show along the nesco was reported in a book to have PB treefrogs in it and thats where i first went looking for them.never heard one there but the first pb i ever did hear was with whip on the nesco between paradise lake and 206.nesco is also a nice walking stream but the only barrens river i ever seen loaded with poison ivy.the one time i canoed it's length try as i might i could not avoid all of it and ended up with a slight case.
Al

Al, it amazes me just how many places you've been to in the pines. Out of the way places. I come across these places that are so remote but it always seems like you've been there. It has gotten to the point that when I go somewhere I think to myself "no one has been here in a real long time, except for Al of course"

Jeff
 

manumuskin

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Al, it amazes me just how many places you've been to in the pines. Out of the way places. I come across these places that are so remote but it always seems like you've been there. It has gotten to the point that when I go somewhere I think to myself "no one has been here in a real long time, except for Al of course"

Jeff

islands are what I love and if you look at the black and white aerials of the sleepercatuxin you will see islands galore.I've been on em all.i was out there before the state forest made a designated trail through the lower islands.I called it seven bridges because there used to be seven plank bridges in all though some are gone or in ruins now.That was a favorite walk of my wifes back in the 90's.
If you like Islands Jeff I can send you coords for some beauties.some are clearly visible on aerials,some not so obvious,and whats more some are adjacent to some nice pickerel fishing:)
Al
PS I still have an isl;and to check out on the shoal branch told to me by Bob.Ain't got there yet but looks nice on the birs eye images.If you get there first I haven't been there:) Want coords?
 

woodjin

Piney
Nov 8, 2004
4,358
340
Near Mt. Misery
islands are what I love and if you look at the black and white aerials of the sleepercatuxin you will see islands galore.I've been on em all.i was out there before the state forest made a designated trail through the lower islands.I called it seven bridges because there used to be seven plank bridges in all though some are gone or in ruins now.That was a favorite walk of my wifes back in the 90's.
If you like Islands Jeff I can send you coords for some beauties.some are clearly visible on aerials,some not so obvious,and whats more some are adjacent to some nice pickerel fishing:)
Al
PS I still have an isl;and to check out on the shoal branch told to me by Bob.Ain't got there yet but looks nice on the birs eye images.If you get there first I haven't been there:) Want coords?

Bob had mentioned the shoal branch to me also. It is funny because that day I was either going to explore the lower sleeper or the shoal. I had already picked out some spots on the shoal to check out.

If you want to send me some coords to any islands you know of near pickerel spots that would be cool. I'll compare it with my experience with similar locations. Thanks, Al.

jeff
 
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