i need help with the martha area

devilstoy

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so i decided to try to locate martha's furnace and explore the surrounding area , i was unsuccesful on actualy locating the furnace site itself , but i think i may know how to get there now it was getting late and i wanted to head back for food , but i was on 697 and went down stage rd then left to allen rd ( i found this road to be strange it was half paved and all tore up look like it was leading into no where?) then left onto oswega rd towards the back side of the bogs , is anyone familiar with what the ruins are on the right hand side ? i have more pics in my album
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Teegate

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Bobpbx took a photo of me standing right where your last photo is.


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Most of the ruins on that road are failed developments and destroyed gun clubs.

Guy
 

MartGBC

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Sep 10, 2008
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The road and the water in it looks like Prince Place Rd. The ruins at the top of the hill with field behind it was my uncles hunting club. Vandels burnt it down in the 8os.
 

devilstoy

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The road and the water in it looks like Prince Place Rd. The ruins at the top of the hill with field behind it was my uncles hunting club. Vandels burnt it down in the 8os.

interesting , yea my gps said prince place , those trails are really tight , scratched my tuck up some :(
 

MartGBC

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Sep 10, 2008
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You are 2.75 miles as a crow flys to the Northwest from where you are standing in the water. Easiest way to Martha is to follow the road that runs along the stream at Harrisonville Lake. The road starts across the street from the Bodine Field Campground entrance on Rt. 679.
 

devilstoy

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Nov 21, 2008
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You are 2.75 miles as a crow flys to the Northwest from where you are standing in the water. Easiest way to Martha is to follow the road that runs along the stream at Harrisonville Lake. The road starts across the street from the Bodine Field Campground entrance on Rt. 679.

i think i was back there , then the trails seemed tight for my truck it was a little open area part way down i stoped at for a lil , didnt wanna hike it if i wasnt in the right spot
 

lowerbankman

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Nov 12, 2008
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I love to hike the area in and around martha, I'm highly fascinated with Calico and hope to one day stumble upon some of the old cellar holes on my own, perhaps saturday I'll make a hike out. Lately I have been frequent visitor of Harrisville, putting my boat in at Beaver Branch to hunt a little waterfowl. I actually hunt near the old bogs down river from beaver branch, they still manage to grow cranberries
 

wolfspider05

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I get a kick out of reading the martha furnace diaries, sounds like there was never a dull moment living back then. To me, its pretty damn funny.

This is taken from "Harvey Moores - an old jersey furnace"

Men get drunk, beat up their wives; fall in
the creek; break various and sundry bones; have "grand" fights with each other; lose
their cows in the woods; and have their teams run away, which usually take a couple of
days to recover.
Stray dogs roam through the town. "Michael Mick kills a rattlesnake". James Craig
returns to work "after enjoying the pleasures of matrimony and goes to chopping wood".
Jacob Ventling takes pot shots at a loon for two days, and then don't get it. Jane
Hamilton is tried by the synod of her church for drinking the "spiritual" liquor, and is
acquitted. James McEntire brings his daughter back from Half Moon "for fear her morals
will be corrupted". The floor boards of the bridge slip up and "Old Leather Jack falls in
the creek casouse." Walter Anderson "dreams ecstatically of kissing two handsome
girls". Sol Reeve gets drunk, breaks his nose, "throws Pink out of doors and breaks his
leg", and then goes about all the next day "grunting like a man 100 years old". Jesse
Evans, the ironmaster, makes surveys, lays out "crossways" (corduroy roads), builds
bridges, hunts for ore, checks cargo, makes out bills of ladings, goes to court, visits
Philadelphia, and once a year starts out with his wife, Lucy Evans, for "Schuley's
Mountain Spring".
The moulders all quit one hot August day and go "over to the beach" to cool off. "Old
Sore Toes departs this life" - he was a horse. Ed Ruffer gets "$3.00 per month for
wheeling cinders". Men dig for buried treasure. A "conflagration" destroys the furnace,
casting shed and warehouse, which are all rebuilt in record time. Bogs are cleaned out
and fresh ones opened up. The saw mill is rebuilt and so is the stamping mill. A new
hearth is put in the furnace each spring. The bridge house gets a new floor. The
"coaling" (charcoal) comes in good, bad, and indifferent, and occasionally catches fire
and damages the wagons. The ore boat runs aground in the pond coming down from
Sassafras. Fires occur in the pines. A gale of wind blows the roof off the carpenter shop.
Teams fall off the bridges; wagons collapse; the "pacer" breaks down; the bellows get
wrecked; the dam gives way; and all hands get hilariously drunk when the furnace goes
out of blast for the winter.
 

devilstoy

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Nov 21, 2008
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I get a kick out of reading the martha furnace diaries, sounds like there was never a dull moment living back then. To me, its pretty damn funny.

This is taken from "Harvey Moores - an old jersey furnace"

Men get drunk, beat up their wives; fall in
the creek; break various and sundry bones; have "grand" fights with each other; lose
their cows in the woods; and have their teams run away, which usually take a couple of
days to recover.
Stray dogs roam through the town. "Michael Mick kills a rattlesnake". James Craig
returns to work "after enjoying the pleasures of matrimony and goes to chopping wood".
Jacob Ventling takes pot shots at a loon for two days, and then don't get it. Jane
Hamilton is tried by the synod of her church for drinking the "spiritual" liquor, and is
acquitted. James McEntire brings his daughter back from Half Moon "for fear her morals
will be corrupted". The floor boards of the bridge slip up and "Old Leather Jack falls in
the creek casouse." Walter Anderson "dreams ecstatically of kissing two handsome
girls". Sol Reeve gets drunk, breaks his nose, "throws Pink out of doors and breaks his
leg", and then goes about all the next day "grunting like a man 100 years old". Jesse
Evans, the ironmaster, makes surveys, lays out "crossways" (corduroy roads), builds
bridges, hunts for ore, checks cargo, makes out bills of ladings, goes to court, visits
Philadelphia, and once a year starts out with his wife, Lucy Evans, for "Schuley's
Mountain Spring".
The moulders all quit one hot August day and go "over to the beach" to cool off. "Old
Sore Toes departs this life" - he was a horse. Ed Ruffer gets "$3.00 per month for
wheeling cinders". Men dig for buried treasure. A "conflagration" destroys the furnace,
casting shed and warehouse, which are all rebuilt in record time. Bogs are cleaned out
and fresh ones opened up. The saw mill is rebuilt and so is the stamping mill. A new
hearth is put in the furnace each spring. The bridge house gets a new floor. The
"coaling" (charcoal) comes in good, bad, and indifferent, and occasionally catches fire
and damages the wagons. The ore boat runs aground in the pond coming down from
Sassafras. Fires occur in the pines. A gale of wind blows the roof off the carpenter shop.
Teams fall off the bridges; wagons collapse; the "pacer" breaks down; the bellows get
wrecked; the dam gives way; and all hands get hilariously drunk when the furnace goes
out of blast for the winter.

sounds like it was blast . kinda makes me wish i lived then :dance:
 

MarkBNJ

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On a side note, "Schuley's Mountain Spring" means Schooley's Mountain Spring, which used to be about a mile from my house. :). The hotels, like the Dorincourt, Heath House, and Belmont Hall, all burned down or were demolished 70 or 80 years ago. The spring was buried when they blasted out a wider road down to Hackettstown.
 

Teegate

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The road and the water in it looks like Prince Place Rd. The ruins at the top of the hill with field behind it was my uncles hunting club. Vandels burnt it down in the 8os.

That would have been the Highland Park Field and Stream Club. What else can you tell us about that club if I am correct, which I am if it is the club with the field behind it and it is Oswego Road.

Guy
 

bobpbx

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I enjoyed reading that Don! Very interesting back then, and that is only a sliver of the stories of the times. Schooley's Mountain has its own chapter in one of Beck's Books. I think the Jersey Midlands.
 

MartGBC

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Sep 10, 2008
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TeeGate you may be thinking of a different club. My uncle's was on Prince Place Rd. where Tub Mill Rd meets it. My uncle died in 1983 and I do not know if his buddies still own the property.
 

Teegate

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TeeGate you may be thinking of a different club. My uncle's was on Prince Place Rd. where Tub Mill Rd meets it. My uncle died in 1983 and I do not know if his buddies still own the property.

MartGBC,

Lets start over with this.

First, I was wrong when I said Oswego Road. The club you are referring to is the one on Martha Road where Tubs Mill Road and prince Place Road meet Martha Road next to the Ives Branch. For the PBX members here it was the club along the road in the front of the field we had lunch at on the March of Ives hike. Scott, it was the one we visited when we were looking for the state marker. It is located here.

http://maps.njpinebarrens.com/#lat=39.65637757839092&lng=-74.4690603017807&z=18&type=k&gpx=

Mart, that is the Highland Park Field and Stream Club in any event, and I would love to know more about that club if you could tell me. I now know someone who may be able to fill me in on the place, and I will write him now to see what I can learn. There is a member here who has info, but they don't post anymore.

Guy
 

devilstoy

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MartGBC,

Lets start over with this.

First, I was wrong when I said Oswego Road. The club you are referring to is the one on Martha Road where Tubs Mill Road and prince Place Road meet Martha Road next to the Ives Branch. For the PBX members here it was the club along the road in the front of the field we had lunch at on the March of Ives hike. Scott, it was the one we visited when we were looking for the state marker. It is located here.

http://maps.njpinebarrens.com/#lat=39.65637757839092&lng=-74.4690603017807&z=18&type=k&gpx=

Mart, that is the Highland Park Field and Stream Club in any event, and I would love to know more about that club if you could tell me. I now know someone who may be able to fill me in on the place, and I will write him now to see what I can learn. There is a member here who has info, but they don't post anymore.

Guy

the one you pin pointed is the one i put pics up of ,
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