Martha Area

jokerman

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May 29, 2003
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I remember seeing pictures of an ingot from Taunton or Cumberland in one of the books. They were shaped kinda' like funnels with a small hole at the bottom. If the historical references to ingots I have come across are accurate, the ingots referred to in the old furnaces were not as described in the wikipedia definition. It is likely that the word ingot might have been used wrong back then.

Update:
After researching the word "ingot" , it definately is correctly used to describe a pig or other crude piece of metal derived from the furnace. However, I guarantee the description of the ingot at Martha is the piece I described...
 

Teegate

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My main interest in the pines is not the more popular locations such as Martha, so my knowledge of this is very limited. However, I have had dealings with the state and others when trying to find items that I know about but are now missing. The personal in charge over the years change, and what was well know then is not anymore. Things get put away, disappear, and in no time at all the items are missing. I have been looking for a milepost stone for the Tuckerton stage road that was found in the 70’s that no longer is around. It was reported to be going on display at Batsto but over the years it disappeared. There is even doubts by some that it ever was a Tuckerton stage milepost. Anyway, getting back to Martha, many of the larger items at Martha are in safe keeping where nobody can find them, and maybe that item is also. If it is, you might as well stop looking for it because you never will find it. I doubt they would just leave that laying around, and because of the importance of many of the items at Martha, it was decided a long time ago to make sure they were safe from those that were insidiously going there and removing them.


Guy
 

flash

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Jul 25, 2009
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Yeah i understand what you are saying Guy. I dont think it would really be just laying around in the open for someone to see. And i bet if it had been, then it was stolen years ago. I just hope it is safe within Martha. So as far as contacting Budd Wilson for any other type of info, how would i go about doing so?

thanks again Guy
 

Teegate

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I see him usually at the Sweetwater book signing, so if you go there next year you can talk to him all you want. He does go to other functions, but I am not sure how we would find out one that has a closer date.

Guy


Yeah i understand what you are saying Guy. I dont think it would really be just laying around in the open for someone to see. And i bet if it had been, then it was stolen years ago. I just hope it is safe within Martha. So as far as contacting Budd Wilson for any other type of info, how would i go about doing so?

thanks again Guy
 

Kevinhooa

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Martha

That's funny you mention that huge piece of metal being at Martha, and I'm not trying to hijack here, but.... on the Oswego river just below the Martha's furnace dam is a left, right, left bend before heading towards the "out of service" road bridge. Just before the right turn is a huge piece of metal, slag, sandstone, can't really tell that is absolutely gigantic. It starts on the east side and goes right down into the water, and continues across on the other side of the river in almost a straight line. It is rusty brown, and covered in slag, but I'm not really sure what it is, or isn't, and how it got there. I guess it could have been liquid metal that was dumped, but it's on both sides of the river. Did Martha have two dams at one point, and if so, were they both within the times of the Furnace? I thought I read about a sawmill being at that location before the Furnace, but this "whatever you want to call it" has slag in it.
 

wolfspider05

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Hi guys, long time no talk, I have been very busy with a newborn. :cry:

Anyway, what Flash is refering to is a large rectangular piece of iron, not a pig of iron. This piece could of easily weighed more than 600 pounds. The picture in the article shows it, it has the words MARTHA on it. The article was found in Nate Ewans scrapbooks. I vaguely remember the details, but I do know that when Beck was there he seen it, he returned again and it was gone. He mentioned that it would of been quite a job hauling it away and that it may have been sold for scrap!! He also mentioned the possibility that it was rolled down the side of the hill that it was buried in, possibly landing in the mud of the raceway. It is questionable that it is still down there, even if so the condition of it surely isn't the same. This would of been 20+ years before the time of the excavation by Budd Wilson.

Don
 
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