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Tristan Da Cunha is supposdely the most remote inhabited spot on earth.I always thought that went to easter Island but I guess not.The nearby island of Pitcairn may ruin it for Easter Island.Hey how about Santy Claus at the North Pole?
 

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It is remote in the extent that is a long way from the mainland though it is not really that far from the end of seven bridges road by the fish factory.It is hard as hell to get to without a boat (I once contemplated swimming across Brigantine inlet at the north end of Brigantine island to the south end of Little beach island about a 300 yeard swim but the current ripping out into the ocean gave me pause:) )but without a boat it is quite easy.I feel that Egg Island point here in cumberland county is more remote then little beach and you can't see Atlantic city from it either.the only thing you can make out and only in very clear weather is East point Lighthouse seven miles across Maurice River cove.The most remote spot you can walk to I'd say would be in Great Swamp and I should say crawl/struggle to or perhaps some spot in the depth of upper Tulpehocken swamp.I still say with the talent we have here,Boyd,Guy to mention a couple we could pin down a most remote barrens spot if we gave it a good old piney try.I'm going to check out little beach verses egg island now.
 

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Okay Egg island point is 6 mi from east point not seven as I thought.4.7 mi from the nearest inland high ground approach where trees can be seen on a clear day at turkey point and 2.7 mi from nearest road at Raybins Beach. Now Little beach depending on where the coords are could be a little further from the south end of seven bridges road then egg island is fro Raybins beach and it is a mile further from Little beach to Scotts landing on the mainland then it is from Egg Island to Turkey Point but here lies the question mark.With a permit you can drive very close to Little beach indeed.With a four wheel drive vehicle you can drive right up to the inlet at the site of my contemplated swim and would this qualify as road access?If so then Egg Island point totally trumps Little Beach as more remote from road access and Egg Island has the added advantage of the only visible human construction is the lighthouse at East point and perhaps some buoys on the bay with binoculars.You cannot see Raybins beach from the point or Fortescue because of the intervening False Egg isnad point.If you walk north over the dune and into the salt marsh I thnk you might be able to glimps Fortescue,I forget now but I remember from the point itself you truly had the feel of being on the edge and with a little haze East Point vanishes from view.What say everyone else?Egg Island or Little beach? How about some remote spots actually in the pines as neither of these qualify.
 

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Yeah, that's something I've been meaning to do but would like to think of an easier way than just staring at the map. So far I haven't. We tackled this topic a long time ago here, but it didn't really offer much insight IMO: http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/threads/most-remote-area-in-the-pines.1581/
Yes I thought this had been brought up before.Thats my problem is how do you do it? A lot of things to take into account and what criteria do you go by?Inhabited dwellings,as stretch of uninhabited road?A lighthouse or a radio antenna?I'd say the most remote spot I've been into would be the middle of Okefenokee swamp and even then there was a nearby canoe trail which is how I got into it in the first place.There are tales of a swamper who walked the swamp from south to north about 30 mi in eight days.I'd love to try a stunt like that,I might decide just to stay and make the law find me.Plenty of fish and gators to eat.
 

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Can't be near anything built or altered by man, trails are OK :) A swamp is the most likely, but even then there is probably some corduroy.

Camden might work :eek:
 
Little Beach once had several cabins and there are utility poles still standing. One of the cabins remains and was jointly owned by some folks who now have life tenency, even as it is technically now owned by the federal govt. There was once a plan before the depression to build a road from Tuckerton through the Little Beach Island and Brigantine to Atlantic City.
 

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I have been in a small cabin at the south end of the island.this cabin can be made out with binoculars from brigantines north end.There were sleeping bags,toilet paper,some canned food and not much else in it.It was unlocked and quite comfy looking.Had some beds in it with just springs.I'm glad they never made the road or there would be condos there now.Also when does a corduroy road cease to matter? I have walked some of these roads that were actually more difficult then the surrounding terrain and definitely no longer useable by vehicles.
Little beach island still does have manmade remnants on it like the poles and a section of dock by the old life saving station and the cabin at the south end while at egg island there is absolutely nothing manmade other then the occasional trash that washes up out of the bay and the view is much more wild.
 
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That cabin is still used by the original owners. I know some of them and was fortunate to be able to camp there with them a few years back. Definately solitude but not too far removed from civilization. You can see and even hear all the folks fishing at Brigantine North end. I loved studying the flora, I saw my first Salt Marsh Aster and Sea Lavender there. There is an out house in the back. The main problem there is the bugs. There are more Greenheads and Mosquitoes than I have ever seen anywhere.
 

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If Guy sees this he'll head to Yellowstone with me:)

If you are truly after an adventure, there is a place in YNP called FairyLand Basin. No, its not that kind of place. I know of only 3 groups that have ever visited it; there may be more by now, but fortunately they keep closed lips. The link is to the last trip I am aware of and gives an excellent description, with pictures. The term 'Loon' is the nomiker a group of us Yellowstone fans have been given. It is a good read.

http://home1.gte.net/res00j35/yellowstone/fairyland/index.htm
 

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Will read this tomorrow! Just got home from work and off to bed.No fairies left I hope:)

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It was a nice little cabin.Wished I coulda camped out in it myself.I left it as i found it and later heard it was used by the coast guard.Nice of whoever to leave in unlocked in case someone might need shelter.
 

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I have went through the Fairyland trips and must say I am amazed.I have always wanted to know where fairies come from.I have worked with several in the past and even had a cousin who was a fairy until his untimely passing at the age of 34.I would have never thought that fairies originated in yellowstone.I will have to put this on my list of places to check out.Those formations had uncanny likenesses to Pillars of Salt????
 

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Isn't it amazing what wonders the wilderness holds :D

Almost like being in a cave, without the cave part.
 

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I did think gee,they look like stalagmites but where would the drip come from?Definitely calcite,is it common for geysers to leave deposits like this?I was thinking that a small flow through a tube that increased with height as the mound built up might do it,sorta a geyser in slow motion but I suppose a geyser could do this too.I do like the Pillar of salt theory though.What were the names of those creeks?Sodom and Gomorrha? ahhh,Fairyland!
 
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