New Jerseys Remotest Spot

[manumuskin]

46er
have you actually been to Fairyland?They say it's a beast to get to.I have found it on the topo map.It seems to be in a canyon about 1200 ft deep.Is the gorge that rough?My wife wants to go to yellowstone and see the tourist sites.I told her I would take her but after we do the tour thing I'm heading to the backcountry.Living in NJ I'm quite accustomed to fairies so Fairyland might make a cool destination

 

[46er]

I was thinking that a small flow through a tube that increased with height as the mound built up might do it,sorta a geyser in slow motion but I suppose a geyser could do this too.

I've been told thats how they got created and the live ones continue to grow. Some geysers have a similar crust around them, one inparticular called Beehive.

46er have you actually been to Fairyland?They say it's a beast to get to.

I have not, a bit to old to make that trip and its not a trip to be taken by ones self. I am acquainted with the folks in three of the expeditions there. It is all mostly bushwack and one group used climbing ropes to help them in and out. I'm pretty sure the '88 fires burned thru there. A guy by the name of Paul Rubenstein was the first that I know of. He also has a very cool web site, link below. I spent several unsuccessful days searching for the stagecoach graveyard he mentions on his site. Next year I'll concentrate on the alleged gold mine near Mae West curve

http://www.yellowstonestereoviews.com/backcountry/home.html

Found a video from the third trip.

and one by his wife.

If you need any info when planning, just let me know. I have good sources

 

[manumuskin]

Now that appears to be calcite that those Fairies are made of so i assume the water is percolating up through limestone but yet this has to be in the caldera because of the thermal features so is this an ancient supervolcano obviously bigger then anything we have today and it blew itself up in the past and then later on it was covered with sedimentary rock layers?The heat mus come from a magma chamber below but the calcite as far as I know only precipitates out of limestone so this supervolcano was an undersea volcano at one time?

 

[manumuskin]

You ever been to the Wind River/Popo Agie area?Looks like raw,nekked country on GE photos.

 

[46er]

Now that appears to be calcite that those Fairies are made of so i assume the water is percolating up through limestone but yet this has to be in the caldera because of the thermal features so is this an ancient supervolcano obviously bigger then anything we have today and it blew itself up in the past and then later on it was covered with sedimentary rock layers?The heat mus come from a magma chamber below but the calcite as far as I know only precipitates out of limestone so this supervolcano was an undersea volcano at one time?

It last blew about 600,000 years ago and the area is within the caldera. The plate it is on is moving, one of the earlier links describes this. I did some volunteer transcription work for the NPS a couple years back about the spires they discoverd under Yellowstone Lake; they put the presentation online at the NPS site. I'll see if it is still there, was a BIG thing as a I recall.

Found it.

https://pantherfile.uwm.edu/rcuhel/www/ynp/SPYRPAPR.htm

You ever been to the Wind River/Popo Agie area?

Never been 'in' the Winds, but drove past them thru Pinedale to Jackson when we used to drive out. That whole area around Jackson; Bridger, Gros Ventre, Shoshone, etc. are pretty remote, as is the area west of the spine of the Tetons that stretch north. We took the Tram up to Rendezvous Mt and walked down the backside out thru Granite Canyon one year. Gorgeous country. I have been thru the Bighorns on RT 14 thru Cody to the east park entrance, another place to try and get back to. Problem is these places are so big and it takes so long to get from one point to another, you couldn't see it all in a lifetime.

 

[Boyd]

It's pretty funny how a thread about "New Jersey's most remote spot" quickly runs its course and turns into a discussion "real" remote places.

 

[manumuskin]

It's pretty funny how a thread about "New Jersey's most remote spot" quickly runs its course and turns into a discussion "real" remote places.

I would say that the Barrens has some swamps in it that are as tough foot per foot as any country out there but the distances are not as great.I crossed the Great Swamp once at an angle that was about .9 miles from one edge to the other.It took me almost four hours.If that isn't a wilderness I don't know what is. I would love to have an idea of the vastness 46er speaks of and I do somewhat.I remember falling asleep while traveling across the Arabian desert in a 5-ton (I was co-driver) and we were heading west on Tapline a road,a road that travels for close to a thousand miles from the Persian gulf to Jordan just south of the Iraqi border.There is a huge oil pipe running about ten ft above the ground along the roadside and the country is as flat as a pancake with nothing but occasional little spiny shrubs growing and it goes on forever.As I was falling asleep I remember the desert fading into the horizon and the pipe along the shoulder.I drifted off for a few minutes so i thought.When i opened my eyes I appeared to be in the same spot but my neck hurt like hell.I asked my buddy how long I had been asleep,he said over two hours,I thought BS and then I looked at the highway kilo markers in arabic numeral which we all learned while over there so we could follow directions.We We had traveled about 180 klicks since I passed out.I also remember watching a convoy approach us while sitting still across the open desert,no roads.A half hour later they were still approaching.You could drive 60 across the desert till you hit a jeep track and the ruts would send you into the roof.For some unknown reason the Bedouin would actually drive tracks from place to place when you could literally drive anywhere.Maybe thats how they found their way around but in places they could be everywhere.The stars were friggin awesome there at night but outside of that it was some miserable country,Not even a hill to relieve the monotony.

 

[46er]

If you really want to break a sweat and stay resonably close to home, try some bushwacking up in the adirondacks. Right Boyd? It is so thick up there; it has not had a big burn since around 1910 I think, when it burned for 4 months.

I would love to have an idea of the vastness 46er speaks of and I do somewhat.

Ya gotta go Al, if even just a driving tour with some day walks. It is awesome. Done right, it is a very economical trip but for the time.

 

[manumuskin]

Been to the Dacks once for about four days.Did some hiking on lowland trails and checked out some of the streams.Most streams are whitewater and my whitewater experience is not much but I have a boof on flatwater canoeing the dacks and they do have some nice flatwater sections.The Osewegatchie trip up to the headwaters and back is three days with one portage around a small falls.Would love to do that.Would also love to do the high peaks area but need to lose some lard before thats a reality.I did some what appeared to be very thick woods and wet woods too but stayed on trail for my first visit.We also drove up Whiteface and did the lazy man thing and took the elevator to the top.Stayed in Lake Placid and hit a deer doing five m.p.h around the s beend at the bottom of the famous ski jump.Knocked her down,she jumped up looked at me in disgust,ran up the hill,gave me another very nasty look and bounded up the mountainside.If "I'd of hit her harder I might be wearing her right nowI do mean to get back there along with the White mountains which i skimmed once with little time too.

 

[manumuskin]

Oh if your ever interested in seeing "Barrens on the Rocks" Go to Sams Point preserve and Minnewaska state park in the Shawangunks.They are Pine barrens on top of a ridge of white rock,I think conglomerate and a couple of hidden waterfalls and lakes backed by cliffs with barrens on top.Gorgeous country but not exactly wilderness either.

 

[46er]

I've been up to the Mohonk Preserve, but never spent much time there. An Uncle owned a dairy farm that I spent summers on in New Paltz, and my brother lived in Highland. It is pretty country, but it is now more a suburb to NYC.