Pinelands panel gets grant to develop trail

woodjin

Piney
Nov 8, 2004
4,342
328
Near Mt. Misery
I agree with you Guy, tourists suck!! At least in the pine barrens, the Jersey shore is great for tourists, they should stick to that. The boardwalks are condusive to commercialism and tourism. Not the woods. There is a frame of mind that tourism helps to generate awarness to the need for conservation. What it really does is create opportunity for money hungry capitalists to take advantage of the resource, exploit it, and consquently destroy the culture and compromise the integrity of the natural balance.

Hey, is the auto trail going over Quaker Bridge? I'm going to open a snack stand on Quaker Bridge and maybe make some $!!!!!

Disclaimer:
You know, a certain amount of commericalism isn't bad. It can have it's charm, but there is a threshold. Also, I don't have anything against capitalism if it is responsible.

Jeff
 

woodjin

Piney
Nov 8, 2004
4,342
328
Near Mt. Misery
I agree with you Guy, tourists suck!! At least in the pine barrens, the Jersey shore is great for tourists, they should stick to that. The boardwalks are condusive to commercialism and tourism. Not the woods. There is a frame of mind that tourism helps to generate awarness to the need for conservation. What it really does is create opportunity for money hungry capitalists to take advantage of the resource, exploit it, and consquently destroy the culture and compromise the integrity of the natural balance.

Hey, is the auto trail going over Quaker Bridge? I'm going to open a snack stand on Quaker Bridge and maybe make some $!!!!!

Disclaimer:
You know, a certain amount of commericalism isn't bad. It can have it's charm, but there is a threshold. Also, I don't have anything against capitalism if it is responsible.

Jeff

Sorry, it's 4am.

Jeff
 

onehand

Explorer
Apr 11, 2005
374
1
potter co. pa.
200,000 to me is just a give away to politicaly connected consultants, it is just a wast of money "pork belly"
our govt. hard at work suqandering our money !
 

Boyd

Administrator
Staff member
Site Administrator
Jul 31, 2004
9,827
3,008
Ben's Branch, Stephen Creek
Jeff: congratulations, you're about to begin a huge adventure!

It seems the trail sticks to highways. I wonder what the money is for, signs?

I don't see much problem with the trail route, it's all major roads. I also don't see much point in it. I doubt that it will attract many tourists. I agree, it's smells like a pork barrel thing that will benefit some consultants. A few new road signs and another $200,000 of our tax money down the drain...
 

supercilious

Scout
Jun 27, 2004
35
0
Another sign of politics, who needs to hire a consultant? Hundreds of people know the pines, and some of them can make rational choices about it for free as a service for the pines. Seriously, who need a rational forum when the money goes to a friend from who knows where to make the choice for you, and in their salary they throw people $2000 in cash to thank each person for the job with no meaning. Talk about more stupidity that people say is important, noone understands what corruption is or how deep it goes.

Lets all be serious, the pines is a political issue, lets preserve it now(New Jersey constitutional admendment!) WE MUST! Oh sorry, this isnt 2026, the pines is a resource we need to lower taxes to help your standard of living, its the pines or taxes, pick your choice 2026 election. Lets be serious, its all nonsesne, all pines, preservation of farmlands, its just for now, i dont see New Jersey Constitutional admendments banning the use of preserved land to be preserved, or to preserve any government owned lands in the pinelands, or other to be really preserved, its just a money, and election scam.

Preserving land now is good, it helps hold stupid expansion, and tax rates. Preservation is also good, because government controlled lands can be sold in 20-30 years at insane costs for develelopment to hold of taxes, but of course all land is developed into 50 mile deep suburban sprawl, atleast you get or your kids the benefit of it, before fleeing to other states for taxes tens of times lower, and your 300k house on 1/4, in another state you get 300k for 150 acres and a house. I know farmers now, its a historical thing, would be nice if they all gave up, sold out, moved away, would be neat to see developers from other states, like Oregon, buying land. So cool to see NJ farmers in other states, and see tens on tens of thousands of acres in housing, talk about punishing people, not just taxes, but traffic, even way of life from houses and houses around them. I would say good, New Jersey needs to be one giant place of houses, and all the costs, and social ills with it, because voters here dont care about it, they care only when they buy some new house near a farm field, then call the police when the farmer is working their field during their July 4th picnic and the noise is NOT TOLERABLE. This is why the pinelands is really a non issue, its a total issue of suburban sprawl, i totally understand our property rights in the United States, but it doesn mean you can build 50 houses on 10 acres, there is a rational view of it, 10 acres you own, 1 house. Why cant i build a nuclear plant and a coal plant on 3 acres, but i can build 50 apartments no problem. Cmon everyone, lets get into reality, and enjoy what we got now, so we have stories to tell later when its all gone.
 

Furball1

Explorer
Dec 11, 2005
378
1
Florida
$200,000

The "consultant" from Philly or NYC or someplace far-removed from the NJPB will get $195,000 for a few minutes work (most of which will be done by underlings and interns or whomever), then $4,000 will go to the warden of a penintentiary in Trenton who oversees prisoners making highway signs, then the remaining $1000 will go to the team of 4 illegal immigrants, who will stick the signs in the ground,paid under the table of course!!! And then, watch out, because there will be an unbelievable tidal wave of tourists rushing to see the sights, rather than going to the casinos that day. The hot-dog cart business will flourish, especially in the winter. This designation will stimulate the economy???? Yeah, for that consultant in Philly or wherever.
 

LARGO

Piney
Sep 7, 2005
1,553
134
54
Pestletown
About The Kid

Jeff,
I am very pleased to hear of your coming arrival! I wish you and your wife a healthy lad. Early on it may deter from your junkets but man wait till you can take him out. All three of mine love the woods in different ways.My youngest, Jason is the woods dude though. At Three he will not tire of my wanderings.
Enjoy him. Savor... everything!

G.
 

deesweet

New Member
Apr 5, 2006
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Bellmawr, NJ
I hope this doesn't end up like Cades Cove (Grt Smokeys). That place is sooo crowded with people who are too lazy to get of their cars to enjoy nature that is scary. When we visited the park we had to go thru the Cades Cove Loop to get to a hiking trail we wanted to do. There were people driving with thier car doors open, with people sitting on top of cars and minivans, screaming, blaring music and litering it was sickening.
 
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