Stone Searching... Fall, Winter, Spring 2018/2019

Discussion in 'Photographers Phorum' started by Teegate, Sep 30, 2018.

  1. bobpbx

    bobpbx Piney
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    Oct 25, 2002
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    Good one Guy!
  2. Teegate

    Teegate Administrator
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    Sep 17, 2002
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    Located adjacent to Lower Bank Road and 542 is the Green Bank Forest, currently called Swan Bay Wildlife Management area. Back in 20011 manumuskin and myself did a short exploration but have not been back there since. During that time I have been acquiring information on possible property stones and today we went there to see what we could find. It is an historical area as many individuals such as William Sooy, Henry Burr and even the Richard's family has owned property there.

    Our first main objective was to find a large stone mentioned in an old map I have. This particular stone was a corner to Henry Burr's 205 acre tract of land and has been there since at least July 27, 1880 as you can see in this map. The stone was shown to surveyor Samuel S. Downs by a John Johnson.

    Henry Burr.JPG

    I spent quite a bit of time trying to figure out where this was, and as late as a few weeks ago I was unsure. So when we arrived at the location today I had three locations to look for it at. After visiting all three locations we were disappointed. But fortunately, Al is very observant and he discovered this.


    A few pokes with my walking stick and with a small part of the stone showing, we were able to bring this to you. Frozen in the ground on it's side was the stone mentioned above.


    After celebrating our good find we set our sites on a much more remote stone over a thousand feet away. The woods in that area are almost all brier and we were not confident we would even make it there. Working our way through the woods like a snake we did what we thought impossible.

    This stone is mentioned on a map I have of William Sooy's "Great Slough Tract." Henry Burr's property ran along it and as the map below says, Samuel S. Downs again surveyed it, this time on June 7, 1867 and he drew this map.

    Great Slough Tract.JPG

    This is what he shows on this stone.


    It was last night before I became semi confident that I had the correct location. It was a long tough walk and I wanted to make sure we were not wasting our time. Upon arriving we circled around forever until I saw this odd looking mound.


    And after digging it up we had found this property corner from over 150 years ago.



    There are more to find and we will hopefully be able to do that soon. There are even old RR grades in the woods there and logging RR grades as well. Both Al and I remarked today that we can even see them on aerial maps. It should be interesting.

    Thanks again to manumuskin for pushing me on this project and for asking me to go with him today. It is always a good day when spent with Al.

    #62 Teegate, Feb 3, 2019
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  3. manumuskin

    manumuskin Piney

    Jul 20, 2003
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    I had walked within ten feet of that stone you found and missed it but I don't feel too bad since we were close to giving up on that first one when I spotted it from a distance.Yes it was a good day in some bad woods that somehow we managed to snake our way through.Made me think of this song I didn't even get cut up too bad.

    The RR Grade is next!
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  4. 1Jerseydevil

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    You 2 amaze me in finding these stones, especially with the snow, moss and leaves. This was nature's best camo.
    Reading about these finds and pictures I wonder who was tasked with the burden of carrying these rocks to the locations? Some appear quite huge. Maybe they used the traditional "beasts of burden" horses or mules?
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  5. manumuskin

    manumuskin Piney

    Jul 20, 2003
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    Guy and I have often discussed how they get these big stones into the middle of nowhere and we have come to the conclusion that often back then it wasn't the middle of nowhere.The woods were probably leveled and there were logging roads to get them close to the corners or they would cut one like surveyors do today and yes they probably hauled them in on a wagon,their version of a flatbed trailer.
    As far as camo yes many stones are covered in moss and pass for stumps.One i remember was in the middle of an open area that was obviously a dry vernal pond.I knew I was in the immediate area of the stone but could see nothing but open pine needle covered dry pond bottom.I then noticed this moss covered stump sticking up and I walked over and gave it a kick.My rubber boot bounced off so I knew it was solid but it's hard to tell by a kick and I had no metal poker like Guy uses and with that you tell my the sound of the tap if it's rock.So I leaned down and dug my fingers into the moss and felt something very hard so i scratched it with a finger nail and it grated like rock.So I cut an incision with my fingers and slowly pulled the moss cam back of reveal the stone.After photographing I lowered the moss cap back over the stone and smoothed out the cut and the stone was invisible once again.
    A probe is a very useful thing to have.Guy uses a trekking pole.I have tried carrying flower pot hangers with me but I inevitably leave them stuck in the ground in a swamp somewhere.I"m not used to carrying a walking stick because to me they just get in the way in thick brush but since Guy carries one all the time I think He is used to remembering to retrieve it.Also if you have cold fingers a key will work quite well as a scratcher ot verify if it's rock or not.
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