By the way, a question for Guy and John. This is going to sound a little odd. Remember, for some time we were in the bowels of the swamp, we even ate at the middle, in a sunny spot. The swamp is about 10 to 12 feet lower than the surrounding woods. Well, I was thinking back last night, of when we finally saw the gentle rise leading to the upland at the far side. Not as much then, but now, in my mind it was as if we were underwater that whole time while in there, and walking towards the margin (shore) it was like we were under water all that time, like under a lake or a sea.