Sure looks that way.
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Tuckers Island returns?
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How would a cut through at the refuge have such a negative impact on the businesses to the North? What am I missing here?
I find it hard to sympathize with people or businesses that should have known better then to build permanent structures on moving barrier islands.Whats that proverb about the house built on sand? Hey mine is built on sand too!just not moving sand.
If you want to make a thatch hut and hole up on a beach in good weather then have at it but when a hurricane comes get out of there quick and don't moan when your hut floats away.How can you even buy land that is constantly moving?Only a fool would.I'll buy a swamp anyday.at least it's not going anywhere.
If you want to make a thatch hut and hole up on a beach in good weather then have at it but when a hurricane comes get out of there quick and don't moan when your hut floats away.How can you even buy land that is constantly moving?Only a fool would.I'll buy a swamp anyday.at least it's not going anywhere.
On LBI and other areas along the Atlantic coast, the Army Corp keeps on trying. The last dump of sand at Harvey Cedars cost $25 million in taxpayer money, and they've been doing it for decades. Their Barnegat Inlet protection project began to have problems with the bladders in 2003 and blew out last year. Nature is now having it her way. A picture from '03 below.
I understand why it is being done but all of the effort and money just delays what will happen. It is futile. I would rather enjoy our natural beaches than to see huge bladders and such. If our coastline changes then so be it. We will adapt as we always have. I think billions can be save if things are just left alone. Our efforts of control seem to cause larger problems down the road any how. The twenty five million could be put towards education or any other area of our state were we are lacking. I haven't been up close to the bladders. How tall are they?
They are pretty flat now. When they were installed and filled, I'd say they were about 10-15' and stretched about a half mile. Just another exeriment at tax payer expense. Most of the sand they recently placed on LBI beaches is already gone, the rest will be over the winter. Then the cycle will repeat itself. It is a catch-22, it they don't do it the homes will go out to sea with huge insurance losses that others will absorb. There is no way those homes could be purchased, the nations debt would double. And no politician will say your on your own. So they suck sand.....
"And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell..." - Matt. 7:27
. I have a better grasp of it now. I live so far way I wonder at times if my view of the situation is wrong. It doesn't impact me directly and I like to hear how others see things.
If I studied this right the barrier islands move with current which generally hits the beaches from the nne to ne which drives the islands south to sw.It usually lengthens them till they are cut by a storm and become a separate island.The islands are then gradually driven toward the mainland to be replaced by new islands that were just sand bars before.I don't know exactly what happens to the old islands,do they ever make it to land or are they swallered by the marsh?.I don't hink we've had aerials long enough to prove this theory but it sounds nice.I guess as long as sea level is rising they would get swallered by the marsh.When sea level drops I suppose the medder would dry out and become land and attach to the islands while more islands would form out further and would constantly become attached through dropping sea levels. Maybe there is a you tube time lapse video of several thousand years showing this?
That 25 Million is a drop in the bucket. Think of all the money they make because of the ocean,Sales tax Road tolls gas tax room tax Cigarette tax booze tax speeding tickets.Think of all those people who goto the shore all the money they drop. Its just a Big shell game.The Rich run this world Plain and simple!
Al, if you use Google Earth there is a year in the bottom left on the screen, you have to be zoomed in pretty tight. If you click on that, it takes you back to earlier views of what your looking at. The one for the Barngat Inlet and its north side shows a good progression from before, during and after the bladder was installed.
I think your describing longshore, or littoral, drift. Wave action and its direction also contributes to the direction the sand will move. Storms also have their effect, but for a shorter period of time, although the erosion they cause does a lot of damage. Photo below from Island Beach SP after a good nor-easter.; wonder where all that sand went.....
I think your describing longshore, or littoral, drift. Wave action and its direction also contributes to the direction the sand will move. Storms also have their effect, but for a shorter period of time, although the erosion they cause does a lot of damage. Photo below from Island Beach SP after a good nor-easter.; wonder where all that sand went.....
LONG BEACH TOWNSHIP — The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has awarded a contract to an Illinois-based dredging company for the next phase of the Long Beach Island beach replenishment project.
The contract, which is for a 26-block stretch of beach in the Brant Beach section, was awarded to the Great Lakes Dredge and Dock Company of Oak Brook, Ill., late Thursday, Army Corps officials said.
The base contract calls for the placement of 1.2 million cubic yards of sand, along with the construction of dune cross-overs, sand fencing and dune grass plantings, from 31st Street south to 57th Street at a cost of $16.7 million, said Stephen Rochette, a spokesman for the Army Corps.
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The contract, which is for a 26-block stretch of beach in the Brant Beach section, was awarded to the Great Lakes Dredge and Dock Company of Oak Brook, Ill., late Thursday, Army Corps officials said.
The base contract calls for the placement of 1.2 million cubic yards of sand, along with the construction of dune cross-overs, sand fencing and dune grass plantings, from 31st Street south to 57th Street at a cost of $16.7 million, said Stephen Rochette, a spokesman for the Army Corps.
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and $12.9 million more.....
http://www.app.com/article/20111003...outh-Beach?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Frontpage
http://www.app.com/article/20111003...outh-Beach?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Frontpage
Yeah, just what is not needed! I was a witness to the attempt in Surf City a couple years back and much of that is gone thanks to some good winter storms. They really need to stop wasting tax dollars and just let it be what it will be.
No sooner do the beaches of Absecon Island lose their sand to the ravages of the Atlantic, than the Atlantic is forced to give that sand right back.
A few months after almost 1.5 million cubic yards of sand were pumped onto the beaches in Atlantic City and Ventnor, another beach-fill project is set to add almost 2 million cubic yards more.
The work done in early summer was “emergency” beach fill, a $13 million project funded entirely by the federal government to shore up sections of the beach heavily damaged by last winter’s storms.
The upcoming work is the next phase scheduled to follow an initial $25 million beach-construction project in 2004. The price tag for the replenishment work will be between about $14 and $17 million, said U.S. Army Corps of Engineers spokesman Steve Rochette.
http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/...cle_9cf21ffa-f529-11e0-9f28-001cc4c03286.html
Not NJ but same issue
Just two weeks after crews repaired dunes at Fowler Beach in a controversial restoration project, the tide has washed them away again, perhaps for good.
Salt water from Delaware Bay washed into the freshwater marshes of Prime Hook National Wildlife Refuge on Wednesday, a problem that has become more frequent in recent years. During Hurricane Irene, floodwater destroyed sections of Prime Hook Road through the refuge and cut off access to about 200 homes.
Delaware taxpayers aren't likely to rush into the breach a second time.
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Just two weeks after crews repaired dunes at Fowler Beach in a controversial restoration project, the tide has washed them away again, perhaps for good.
Salt water from Delaware Bay washed into the freshwater marshes of Prime Hook National Wildlife Refuge on Wednesday, a problem that has become more frequent in recent years. During Hurricane Irene, floodwater destroyed sections of Prime Hook Road through the refuge and cut off access to about 200 homes.
Delaware taxpayers aren't likely to rush into the breach a second time.
http://www.delawareonline.com/artic...s-vanish-again?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Local