What we did to this wonderful flowering seep.

bobpbx

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This is a seep harboring at least two orchid species and likely curly grass and other things. It has been ruined by flow of water seeping from a dump. Disgusting.
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Teegate

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I would think that is the same location we were at on the PBX hike?
 

amf

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Not saying that is the case here, but that type of oil sheen and the ochre sludge can often be naturally occurring.
 

NJChileHead

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Bob should you report it to the DEP? I would think that a dump site built in the last 80 years should be lined or drained properly to prevent that sort of contamination no? Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think that should be happening...
 

bobpbx

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Bob should you report it to the DEP? I would think that a dump site built in the last 80 years should be lined or drained properly to prevent that sort of contamination no? Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think that should be happening...

This is a well known location. Manahawkin west of the parkway. AMF mentioned ochre sludge, which made me think; maybe the sludge is the material used to cap it; clay mixed with other foreign material (foreign to the pines). Still, even that is not natural and not good in a pristine place. I may ask someone in DEP if they realize how bad it is. One thing is clear, it's still a stream of sorts. A stream of sludge.
 
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oji

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Aaah, this looks like the site that was supposed to be a park in perpetuity (until money could be made with a solar farm). In order to build a solar farm on an abandoned dumpsite it must be properly capped first. I think that monitoring well should be checked out!
 

The Wick

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Are all the town homes they are building on the landfill or adjacent too it? I have noticed when you drive up to the back of the dump from Lucilles/Warren Grove the land drops pretty sharply down off to the left side of the road in some spots. I have never gotten out to explore but it looked like it had some decent elevation.
 

bobpbx

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Are all the town homes they are building on the landfill or adjacent too it? I have noticed when you drive up to the back of the dump from Lucilles/Warren Grove the land drops pretty sharply down off to the left side of the road in some spots. I have never gotten out to explore but it looked like it had some decent elevation.

It does have very sharp elevation drops to Mill Creek, yes. As to the homes, I was shocked to see last week the progress they've made in putting them up. They've started building quickly on the SE side. Here's a cell phone photo I took into the sun. These, I believe, back up to the woods.
 

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NJChileHead

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Bob (or anyone else), do you know if there are residential wells in the area, or if the water is piped in from a treatment facility? If it's the former, I'd be even more concerned...
 

bobpbx

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Bob (or anyone else), do you know if there are residential wells in the area, or if the water is piped in from a treatment facility? If it's the former, I'd be even more concerned...

I don't know, but there is an apparatus along route 72 that contains piping etc. It's within 50 feet or so of the bridge where the creek goes under 72.
 

bobpbx

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By the way, that day I was also behind the dump by Haywood Road. I was bent over looking at some plants, and I hear a group of boys from the new development approaching. They were on the surface of the dump. I'd guess they were 11 years old, maybe 5 of them. I hid behind a tree and started grunting loudly. They froze for a couple minutes and were looking in my direction, speaking in hushed tones. I continued and they went about 20 yards further to a bushy area and skirted that and started back the way they had come. I snuck up to the fence and I popped my head up and called out to them. They waved in amazement. I yelled out "keep exploring boys, it's the only way to live!". They were very relieved and said Thanks!
 
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