I am hoping that full details are made public. The State and Pinelands Adventures should be given an opportunity as well to address specific claims and statements against them. On its surface I am fully in support of Cowboy Mike's Canoe Rental service. Having stated that I would like to know what additional facts (not heresay or speculation) are involved. I often drive by PA and have noticed their sign "No Lake Rentals" available. Now it makes sense as to why.
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It means "they" tried to buy the lake but were unsuccessful. Therefore, they are unable, at this time, to rent the actual lake to would-be vacationers.
Actually it means that "they" do not rent canoes for use on Atsion Lake.
I think they screwed up the spelling and used a K instead of a T. Perhaps a Freudian slip
On Pinelands Adventures' web site in FAQ under ABOUT US there is a question. Can I paddle on Atsion Lake? In response it states, "At this time we are offering canoe and kayak rentals to anyone who is camping at the Atsion Family Campground, the cabins on Atsion Lake, and the Goshen Pond Campground. You must be able to pickup and return the canoe and kayak in your own vehicle.
I would suggest going over to atsion this weekend to anyone who wants to talk to cowboy mike and hear it right from him.
Not sure of your question, but my reading/interpretation is that they (PA) are unable to rent canoes/kayaks for folks who wish to go onto the lake. As another poster commented they do however appear to be able to rent to folks who are staying at the adjacent campgrounds or cabins. Conversely I wonder if this means that Cowboy Mike's operation has exclusive use of Atsion Lake for the purposes of rentals not affiliated with camping/cabins. Interesting. I also wonder if when Adam's ran that area if he had exclusive livery rights for the Mullica/Batsto/Atsion Lake? I am a big fan of market competition and I am rooting for Mike's to succeed, I would just love to hear the story from all parties.
My questions kind of follow yours. Seems unnecessarily complicated to me.
It sounds to me, that anyone staying at the Atsion campgrounds or cabins can use their own canoe or rent one from any canoe rental of their choice as long as they transport the rental canoe in their own vehicle.
Most if not all of what is being said here is true but if you really want to know you should follow Piney4life's suggestion and visit him at Atsion this weekend.
Nope. This is hot enough to catch fire. I'd not trust anything anyone told me at this point. I'd have to see written agreements. This is for the courts to settle.
There is an open boat/livery concession in Belleplain, the attached is the concession agreement, probably very similar, if not a duplicate of Atsion.
http://www.state.nj.us/dep/parksand.../LE17-05_Boat_Livery_Concession_Agreement.pdf
This link is for the concession process for state parks & forests.
http://www.state.nj.us/dep/parksandforests/parks/business_ops/concession.htm
http://www.state.nj.us/dep/parksand.../LE17-05_Boat_Livery_Concession_Agreement.pdf
This link is for the concession process for state parks & forests.
http://www.state.nj.us/dep/parksandforests/parks/business_ops/concession.htm
Yep, and how many of us actually read the contracts?
This is a general termination clause in the one above. I'd bet Cowboys has the same. It's why God created Attorney's.
As noted in the post, it is also for a boat/livery, not a mobile/livery. I don't think it is a draft as it is not labeled as such and is on their web site for an open concession; Belleplain. As I said, 'similar', but I would be surprised if there were items as fundamental as termination that are different from year to year. The owner of the concession at another state park has the exact clause from 2016. I guess we shall soon find out.