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This is nothing more then a forum of people who enjoy sharing their diverse experiences in the pines. Until recently we had no reason to attend meetings. Time I would rather spend in the woods.;)

Yes it's grass roots but without organization we are nothing more then a relatively small group of voters. Organization turns a bunch of voices into a force.

The only way that we can win. Is winning the public opinion. The only way I see that is possible is exposing the holes in the project MAP. There is not one single person that can do that all. We need to organize better. Posting everything here in the forum where everyone can see could hurt our...

Again I agree. The notion that roads will reopen if they can be repaired is nothing more then bullshit. Reopening a road is like saying my taxes are going to go down next year. Right now they are doing nothing more then polling. If they can decrease the number of people protesting by enough by...

I agree. I only looked this up after hearing about them last night. I guarantee the PPA and DEP were doing the same. The time line on the MAP project is key. Last night both the DEP and PPA seemed to back off a bit and say that this is only "proposed" and that only 10 roads are affected. I took...

Been doing research on them. http://www.fws.gov/northeast/njfieldoffice/endangered/NLEbat.html

A special interest group that I once felt was on our side. And when this doesn't work what's the next step.

I did get tired of hearing that she hadn't seen any map. Which is why I had to say that our map was nothing more then a copy of their map they already released. They are going to move forward with this plan no matter what we say. Their mind is made up on what they are doing. She played dumb but...

I agree we all were very worked up last night. When I realized nothing was going to get accomplished last night I felt it was better to keep some of the tougher questions I had to myself. Better to not show all your cards up front.;) Not that we have many. I want to see them struggle with some...

I was going to ask that same question. When Dave asked about the bats all I heard were crickets:D

Lol. I did see you. But there was a lot going on I will make sure to say hi at the next one.

They made it sound like it but I have my doubts. Next wedsnday it the township work shop meeting.

Broke Jeep Joe was there too. I'm not sure who else from the forum was there.

I'm pretty sure she wasn't there to answer questions but to gather information. She even claimed that she wasn't familiar with the PPA And distanced herself from them. She also stated that the closures were a proposal and nothing is closed as of yet. The rep from the PPA said that as well.

Cindy Randazzo. She claimed not to know anything since she just got back from vacation. According to her she said was told only 10 roads were closed.

Well, DEP is definitely trying to do damage control. Tonight's meeting went pretty much as I expected since the township's environmental committee is just a group of volunteers. The DEP sent a rep to hear our questions about the "proposed" map plan. More interesting to me was the fact the PPA...

I just looked at their Facebook page. They helped block off the vernal pools off of Sandy Causway back in April. That is something I agree with but where they stand as far as the MAP plan goes I'm not sure.

I'm not exactly sure what side they are taking. Since the Township site has the FAQ link for the MAP project too.

Yes it is

Tomorrow in Waterford Township could be a test.