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Okay, thanks. I get your meaning. There are other benefits for using the term. If you are a developer who manages to disregard the ecological implications of your actions (purely hypothetical case), and somebody sabotages your efforts or vandalizes your property, you have friends in Congress and...

Bob, if you will make a specific point, I will do my best to respond in a fair and good-natured manner.

We're back where we started. As you say, the term is "loosely applied." My point is that it is much too loosely applied. Improperly applied, in fact, for all the reasons I have stated.

Thanks, King. I should think that anyone who reads this carefully would notice that it points out the incongruity of the term "eco-terrorism" as it has been applied by certain authorities. If someone had burned up some houses because he had a grudge against the builder, or virtually any other...

Good points, Jeff. I do find it impossible to believe, though, that you are terrified, if you say you are continuing your recreation. If I'm terrified about something, I don't merely become more cautious about it.

Oops, sorry, Bob! Okay, here's why it is a position based upon logic, rather than a mere opinion: We cannot properly call someone a murderer, unless he has committed murder. We cannot properly call someone arsonist, unless he has set something on fire. I propose that it is merely...

Mark, I'm with you 100% concerning people who use bomb threats and other large scale acts to instill terror. But I certainly don't think any of those people are setting booby traps in the pines. And I don't think it is at all accurate to think that anyone has committed any form of terrorism...

I think we all agree that this is a stupid and despicable thing. The person who did it should be arrested and tried for criminal mischief or whatever. He/she deserves severe punishment. But it isn't terrorism.

10-4 Nascar. Point well taken. But do you know what I'm talking about when I say that big trucks are tearing up both roads and wildlife habitat out there?

There is no doubt that the state forest fire service performs an invaluable service. The brave men and women that fight fire and set prescribed fires deserve enormous of credit and gratitude from the public, for saving human lives and property. We shouldn't confuse this, though, with the...

You mean about the definition of terrorism? I'm happy to continue, but maybe it belongs in a different forum.

Scott, what do you mean? Are you a landscaper?

Med, give me a call! I can email a list that we have been working on, and recommend some suppliers.

Fishers! I had heard that these things are being spotted in the state, but I had no idea they are all the way down in Salem County. Do the state wildlife biologists know about this?

Sorry, I couldn't resist it. That song actually makes me sick...

Hey Med, you quoted Ben, but ascribed it to me. In any case, if your message was intended for me, your remarks are too vague. Please clarify.

Now, I would have to disagree with you on that, Ben...................:mrgreen:

Bob, I think Ben and I just love to debate. We would probably argue over anything, just for the fun :jeffd:

10-4, Tom. But I'm talking about a caravan of monster trucks covered from top to bottom. I don't think it hurts to alert the rangers, because there's good chance they aren't out there to reflect on the wonders of the natural world.

If the trucks aren't off road, then the drivers have nothing to fear from law enforcement, but if the vehicles are covered from top to bottom with mud, then chances are the drivers were playing in the mud, not just driving down the road. I know High Crossing area pretty well, and it's pretty...