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No, I'm flying by the seat of my pants. I'm like the box of rocks when it comes to math and science. I have read and re-read certain portions of Palmer's book, and I just don't get it. I definitely need to get educated though, before I try to do an all grain porter or stout. I checked out the...

Medford, thanks for your detailed answer. I think we are on the same page with most of this. Here's my feedback...

I'll second that.

Here are a couple of points that I think are important to notice for future discussion. 1. I will do everything I can to make sure any future PPA statements are more sensitive to the distinction between illegal and legal riding. In return, I would ask that riders (or those sympathetic to...

No, I'm hip. At PPA, we have been accustomed to using the term ORV, because the main problem we are trying to address is people going off the road. As I have said in the past, nobody is objecting to Jeep traffic or even monster truck traffic so long as they are traveling down a road, following...

We go around and around on this topic. What, exactly, do you want PPA to do?

Yes, I did. Last Thursday. Used Deer Park bottled water. I got the mineral specs off the internet, and used Palmer's nomograph to see what I might be able to do. I cut my recipe in half, and I used only base malt. I followed a mash schedule of 104, 140, 158, with a 30 min. rest at each temp...

Not sure what you mean by "virtually illegal." A act is usually legal unless it has been codified as illegal, right? Maybe you meant "virtually all OHV use is illegal." Anyway, I think I get your drift, and I think Ben has it right. Right now, it's legal to ride unregistered vehicles on your...

Thanks for sticking up for me on that one point, Ben! I think I have made all the concessions and admissions that are logically appropriate on this topic. Please see previous posts where I have agreed that PPA should make some adjustments. I respectfully disagree with you, though, on a few...

Sound advice. I have already advised my colleagues (and myself) to be careful not to paint all the riders with the same brush, and to try to avoid generalizations and emotive language that offends law-abiding riders. Future statements issued by PPA for the clarifications you advise, may be...

Jeff, please take a look at my post immediately prior to yours (previous page) and let me know what you think. I didn't see any instances in Ben's post of addressing specific errors. What did I miss?

Well, my concern in this discussion was to discover whether there was any specific thing PPA has said or done to give anyone the impression that we are "anti-ORV" rather than "anti-illegal-ORV-activity." Blurring this simple distinction seems to me similar to someone saying "Mothers Against...

Jeff, what are the errors you refer to? What do you mean by saying that, "PPA is not addressing the current rules..."? Also, I don't understand the significance of whether or not we mention the enduros. And yes, it's good that some clubs are conducting cleanups, but focus of the project is...

Guys, please cite specific words or actions. I cited a specific statement from a PPA Pinelands Watch newsletter that I believe was inaccurate and misleading. We can correct such things, but it is impossible for us to address statements such as, "You can just tell..." or "It's obvious that..."...

Thanks, Ben. I recall that the conversation didn't go well, and I understand that you and Jaclyn disagreed about one or more aspects of PPA's position and/or strategies concerning the ORV issue, but what, specifically, did Jaclyn say that gave you the impression that PPA is "anti-ORV"?

Thanks, Bob. You have been specific as to the people. Now, could you please be specific as to the words or actions?

Rather than reply individually to the previous posts, let me just ask what makes anyone think that PPA is "anti-ORV." Please be specific. I think we can reach an understanding if we discuss specific points. For example, I just re-read the article (thanks for posting that), and I see the...

Jeff, I was with you on most of that, but I have to point out that I have tried in multiple previous posts to correct this misconception. PPA's position is and has been that the current regulations concerning ORV use should be enforced. That is not at all equal to an attack on ORV use. If...

My wife and I were out there just fishing a couple of years ago, and this conservation officer stopped by and checked out our licenses. Apparently he suspected my wife's license might be phony, so he started questioning her to a degree that I think was way out of line. I hear what you're saying...