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This 1860 William Kitchell; Morgan Hopkins map does not indicate any settlement in the area of Dutchtown.

If it hasn't already been considered, wouldn't it be prudent for the various stakeholder groups that oppose the MAP to meet beforehand, with the intention of arriving at a unified stance that would be reasonable and acceptable to each group? Less likely for us to be concurred by division.

Don, all of this is really great! Thank you so much for taking the time to relate so much of your knowledge and experience with us!

Thanks Don. I thought, once reaching the mill, they just portaged over to the main channel, but passing through the building sounds like fun if it were possible. I have a couple requests. 1. I would like to know more about the person/ghost of Johnny O'Dea; 2. Old Sam Giberson - any relation...

Also be sure to check out this series of photos of people canoeing the Great Egg Harbor River. There are three pages of photos, and you will find some great shots of the Weymouth papermill on the second page...

I was also wondering if a couple of those photos could have been the "New Pond".

I just realized what this might be. That is the mill race and the slab sheathed house. I realized it when you had me flip the photo. Cool!

Don, and anyone who might have some input regarding this photo from the above collection. The metadata has this as a description: "Deserted house at Atsion, N.J." -- "Lantern slide showing a river with a dilapidated house on the right bank. Two canoes pass with two rowers in each canoe. The...

You all will love this! This series of Photographs was recently brought to my attention my forum member Willy. Let's take a trip back in time - back to May 18th, and 19th, 1906 and accompany this river party as they paddle down the Atsion Branch from Atsion...

Here are a few other Advertisements that may be of interest... (1) Fruitland ad Dec 20, 1866 The Farmers' Cabinet. (2) Ad for railroad from Atsion to Vincentown January 30, 1869 Daily State Gazette (3) Raleigh Real estate Co The New York Herald May 8, 1885. (Their history is less than...

Don, you may me right. The farm shown in your map is just a tad to the North-west of the spot I pinpointed as the drained area. How big were the Fruitland farm lots? 20 acres? The drained area may still fall within the property boundary for that farm. The only thing is, according to several maps...

Thanks for the clarification Teegate. I can understand how it could be confused because the map maker is referring to the Mechesactauxin as "Sleepy". This appears to be the same map that you posted in the thread entitled "The Sale of Atsion Furnace" post#21 & 22. If so, the map maker labeled...

Having discovered this altered section of the river several years ago, I had long wondered what it could have been. It was again brought to mind after reading the 1791 advertisement in the Pennsylvania Gazette, and I wonder if it is this location that they were referring to ... If nothing else...

Incase you all haven't read Mr. Horner's latest article...

A sad fate.

Referencing the names mentioned in the Batsto Citizens Gazette, I found these three entrees in the Colonial Conveyances... 1. June 16, 1760 to John and Vincent West et al; from William Heulings et al. for "unappropriated land" 2. July 10, 1760 to John and Vincent West et al; from Daniel Ellis...

I figure that it was rebuilt and continued to operate into the next century. You ask for the earliest references for each of the mills. According to the Colonial Conveyances and other sources, here is a bit of a timeline. 1. On Aug. 15, 1761 John Estell acquires land "situate along Sleepy...

I am under the impression that the 1782 advertisement that reads: "...ruins and iron work of an old sawmill, on one of the branches of Little Egg Harbour river, about 5 miles from the Forks" is the mill formerly owned by John Estell which was located on the Sleepy Creek. The main reason for...

Hmmm, interesting Teegate. Interesting because we have Josiah Foster putting the Sleepy Creek property up for sale in 1782. Then, in 1795 the Sleepy Creek mill and property is being sold by Samuel Murdock. Publication: The Pennsylvania Gazette Date: February 11, 1795 Title: FOR SALE FOR SALE...

Most Excellent! I did indeed enjoy the ride! Funny how parts of that still have that feel today.