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Amazing the knowledge of the folks here.

Your working on a new topo map for 2013? Great, what's in mind this time? As for removing any boundary lines, I would like you to retain them as I'm sure others would. Many are paths and even if they're not it's nice to know what is approx. where. As for showing public property, State forest...

Yes I agree, roads and fire cuts, there is something different about the ground itself. However the imagery is also picking up property lines where the vegetation and NOT the actual ground has changed...

We're saying the same thing but just walking down different trails I guess. I understand your enhanced vector lines. If you look at the image on the left which is the raw LIDAR as you say, you can clearly see all the roads and fire cuts as shadows [lines] some of which you did not enhance with...

Your 2 images are showing exactly what I'm talking about. The image on the left shows all the roads and firecuts in and around the FAA complex. The image to the right shows the exact same but this time you highlighted with the white lines. I am not talking about the black lines.

[quote="Boyd, post: 110405, member: 127But if it's actually a "line" then that is vector data that I have gathered from other sources and overlaid on he LIDAR. Basically, this is the same line data used in my maps here: That may explain. Even when you turned the white lines off in your post to...

Yes to the SE. I wasn't positive of the compass so refrained from saying. I guess if you put it in 1 or 2' elevations would be correct, like I said from a "flea's" perspective it's difficult to notice subtle change. It's also probably the way I look at the image, at first glance it looks like...

Yes, that's the area I'm talking about. That general area is infested with gun clubs. I know of 6, but don't ask me the names. LOL I thought that area or at least the area right along Beaver Dam is now Conservation also a strip along Red rd. The opposite side N belongs to a gun club. Maybe both...

That would be on the other side of the river? I think I'm looking at the area. I do remember years back on Beaver Dam road while crossing the cedar swamp when it was cut. Don't ask me the year. It is now Conservation property? How did you get back there, boots and 2 feet? LOL

I've got to ask, as good as the resolution is on the image, by chance is there some misinformation caused by the trees? I certainly haven't been over every foot of that area and "we" as a flea's viewpoint in proportion to the area may not readily be aware of elevation changes, I'm in doubt of...

Hang glider in bird costume, looking for a place to land.:jd:

Bob I've poked around in there on both sides of the road. At one time there were a lot more towers. There are areas on the current FAA building side of Beaver Dam rd that have evidence. There is even a defunct tower laying on the ground that has pieces salvaged from it. There is an electrical...

Bob Are those cables from one of the "defunct" towers? Appears to be another cable in the upper right hand corner? Looks like a carpet of Broome Crowberry?

If this is your prime motive, you've come to the right place.

I used to be involved in 4wd's in the early '70's when there were 4wd clubs that put on club rides and legal competition events in gravel pits. I've long been out of the scene since I got involved in motorcycle riding. What I'm leading to is I'm not aware of any particular area 4wd's regularly...

Sorry for the delay Bob, just seen your request. http://maps.njpinebarrens.com/index.php#lat=39.87529896981542&lng=-74.39632415771484&z=18&type=h&gpx= In fact you may want to check this area clearings and the end of the dead end road as it appears to be a popular bonfire party area...

ATV's, no. Motorcycles that are registerd, insured and the rider is licensed is legal.

Not toxic but off Bloody Ridge rd in Greenwood WMA in a small clearing is a pickup load of telephone books. My guess is they were paid to deliver, but just took the delivery $$ instead. They've been there for about a year that I know of. I guess a lot of people went without phone books. LOL.