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Okay, this sunday at 9:30am, here http://maps.njpinebarrens.com/#lat=39.93799091830087&lng=-74.54546570777893&z=17&type=nj2007&gpx= this is an open invitation for anyone who wants to come see "The Mutha". Knee highs are probably best but it is do-able in hiking boots. Jeff

True, we didn't have speakeasies, we just had stills.

I doubt it was ever a speakeasy as it was constructed sometime between 1940 and 1956 according to historic aerials.

I call it the slaughter house. It was the back drop for the picture on the back of my album. I really don't know much about it. Sorry

Thanks for the info Bob. A Home in the Pines was written by Elizabeth Woodford (of Medford Woodford Wildlife Refuge fame). in 1975. It is a 32 page pamphlet. It is designed to educate people who have recently moved to the pine barrens on native plant species and encourage them to augment...

Oh, okay, I wasn't real familar with Owen's hill and only saw it referred to on some maps (probably the Scotts atlas). No word on Governers Hill huh? There must be some reason why it was named that. Perhaps a story (and maybe an exact location) lost to time. Jeff

Yes it is the 1973 printing. It also had an newpaper article that was ripped out and folded in it. It is from March 2nd, 1980 about the trains in the pines. I haven't read it yet. I wonder how much The Story of the Four Mile Colony is going for? Not that I plan on selling any of these.

How is this upcoming sunday morning? We could check out some ruins nearby as well. There is something there for NJsnakeman also. Jeff

I never took you there!!!!? when we go to see The Mutha, I will take you there. http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/showthread.php?t=2237&highlight=substantial+ruins this was the original thread, some of the ruins seemed to be related to saw mill operation.

I recall reading about that in Heart of the Pines. I will go back over the text when I get a chance. I don't believe there are any ruins left or if the tavern location is absolutely known. You would think there would be some thing left. Jeff

Wow, that place really was huge.

Bob is correct, that is the one I am referring to and, yes, it is not confirmed as a saw mill but it is very likely.

I went to an inside yard sale about three weeks ago in Chatsworth. In was an older home. Anyway, I got a bunch of stuff including these books. these are new to my collection: the Story of The Four Mile Colony The Plants of Southern NJ Pinelands Folklife: The Historic County...

A bit of a dated post. Back in the mid ninties I used to ride in the area that was later to become the NJORV park. When I used to ride back there, I would stop along the top ridge of the back pit and take in a beautiful vista looking eastward. The oppitsite slope/decent from the ridge, which...

Wow!! Great!!!

It is always a pleasure to have someone post who has genealogical ties to the pine barrens. Especially when it is connected to PB history and /or culture. Piney roots, there are some saw mill locations around the harrisville area (see the one near Martha bridge) that might have been the area...

Great report. Sorry I didn't get back to you guys regarding today (as opposed to Friday) I was entertaining family all weekend. Beautiful weather huh? Jack fishing at "Camp Parker Preserve".

Wow. What was he doing with the machette? Or, did you figure it was best not to ask?

Great follow up and disscussion on HP.

The more the merrier. Lets see what Chris's schedule is like and then mine and we'll plan from there. Please extend the invitation to Jessica as well, Guy. It will not take very long to hike to the location. knee highs would be best but not required. Jeff